Unemployment still 8.2% in June 2012 !

Anyone who thinks the current economic downturn in the US is at the hands of just one party is a buffoon of partisan proportions.

That is what got the current potus elected, and in 4 years not a damn thing is different than when he took over, and of course the constant 4 years of blaming one man and one party done by the left.

After all the mantra is fair share,fair play,fair,fair, fair.

What?

That is not fair?

Sure it is.

Originally posted by stanguilles7
Anyone who thinks the current economic downturn in the US is at the hands of just one party is a buffoon of partisan proportions. This is all by design. The US economy has been running on one bubble or another since the mid 90's. Never-ending economic expansion has an end. We reached it in about 96. Everything since then has been based on bubble speculation like the dotcom market under clinton or the housing bubble under bush. Thsi wont change under Romney. Heck, even if Paul were elected, his policies would largely destroy what is left of the us economy. There is no solution.

You're just being a Mr. Crankypants.

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There is a solution.

There is $2 trillion just sitting on the sidelines in Fortune 500 corporations.

All we have to do is remove the - uncertainty - placed in the US economy by Obama.

- Repeal ObamaCare

- Repeal Dodd/Frank

- Drill - Baby - Drill........lower the price of gas to $2 a gallon

If we do those 3 things you will see the unemployment rate mysteriously fall to

4%.

Let's face it honestly.

Unemployment is a WORLD WIDE phenomena right now, not just in USA. Look at Europe and it scare the pants off you. Look at Asia and the descend is near. Even rolling stone China manufacturing is grinding down slowly, soon to a halt.

Arab world and Russia still has its massive oil profits, and living on it for the meantime, and not for long as oil prices are dropping due to low demand. Peak oil had been a joke and a terrible lie. Oil producers are now attempting to lower production instead to keep oil price up, but to no avail, as the demand is no longer there.

Any POTUS, right, centre or left, will face similar issues right now. If not for the resiliance of the American People and still a few right folks in US govt, USA would easily had gone the way of the Europeans.

It is not the end yet for businesses.

Take a leaf off the pages of the electronics giant Samsung. They faced incredible odds against Apple products, and yet, it remain resiliant, courageous, improvised and improved upon its own product models and are now the market leaders, surprisingly, even in this slow market.

What they had done, so too can american companies operating in USA.

While world humanity are cutting down on purchases, thus the slowdown, none had given up on essential items such as food, water, vital manufactured goods or services.

Under such climate, many of the fearful companies would scale back hiring and operations, batten under the hatch, hoping to ride out the storm. They are fools, for they had LEFT the free market wide open for others whom are courageous enough to gain market share now.

The govt plays a part as well right now, to be wary of 'Free trade' and globalisation. It should be FAIR trade instead, with focus on innovative new and past products, with QUALITY emphasis, to penetrate global markets

There is more, but I am sure there are others whom are far far more intelligent than me to come up with much better proposals, than to play the current blame games and politics that WILL NOT serve or help americans at all.

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The unemployment rate in North Dakota is 3%. -- Shale oil --

It's the good stuff - sweet crude - low sulfur content.

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The unemployment rate in Davos, Switzerland is less than 1%.

Apparently, there are solutions.

One thing is clear socialism doesn't work.

It's also a bad idea to lower the retirement age to 50. -- Greece --

Do people continue to buy products from multinationals? Yes

Are profits still legally required by these multinationals? Yes

Do people continue to bank with multinationals? Yes

Do people continue to invest in stocks? Yes

Do people expect something different? Yes

Funny

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


All we have to do is remove the - uncertainty - placed in the US economy by Obama.

- Repeal ObamaCare

- Repeal Dodd/Frank

- Drill - Baby - Drill........lower the price of gas to $2 a gallon

If we do those 3 things you will see the unemployment rate mysteriously fall to

4%.

Do you actually believe that partisan tripe? 4% it hasnt been that low since 2000. Why wasnt the previous administration able to see those numbers without dodd frank or obamacre?

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


All we have to do is remove the - uncertainty - placed in the US economy by Obama.

- Repeal ObamaCare

- Repeal Dodd/Frank

- Drill - Baby - Drill........lower the price of gas to $2 a gallon

If we do those 3 things you will see the unemployment rate mysteriously fall to

4%.

Do you actually believe that partisan tripe? 4% it hasnt been that low since 2000. Why wasnt the previous administration able to see those numbers without dodd frank or obamacre?

Well they almost did.

Even with the financial disaster from 9-11.

Maybe those tax cut packages helped (before the Democrats took Congress away starting in 2007)

Elephant vs Donkey economics

reply to post by xuenchen


Hey! Look at that! 4% unemployment in the year 2006 !

I guess it is possible!

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Liberal response: Oh, um.....nevermind.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012



Liberal response: Oh, um.....nevermind.

Liberal response: Blame Bush. Lets get it correct.

i would dare say that obama has done a great job keeping the country a float. in 2008 right wingers were saying the boat would be at the bottom of the sea right now. i would also dare say the situation would be no better had mccain won the presidency.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Hey! Look at that! 4% unemployment in the year 2006 !

I guess it is possible!

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You sir, are a bald faced liar.

As that chart clearly shows, unemployment in 06 was 4.4%, not 4%. With a nation of 300 million people, thats a HUGE discrepancy. You stated that repealing dodd frank and obamacare would lower unemployment to 4%, but Bush was never able to acheive that in his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY without either of those laws. So stop blaming Obama for a systemic problem that exited previous to his administration. It's partisan stupidity to pretend one party is different from the other.

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
i would dare say that obama has done a great job keeping the job a float. in 2008 right wingers were saying the boat would be at the bottom of the sea right now. i would also dare say the situation would be no better had mccain won the presidency.

Many of the jobs created are part time and temp.


This is interesting and never talked about by the Obama Administration.

Breitbart story

The June Jobs Report was dismal enough. The top-line job growth number missed even the low end of expectations and the overall unemployment remained unchanged. But, tucked away in the report was a more ominous sign. Almost one-third of the jobs that were created were at temporary employment firms.

BLS reported that Business and Professional Services created 47k jobs in June, almost 6-in-10 of the total jobs created. Over half of these, though, 25k, were at temporary employment firms. This means that almost one-third of the jobs created were are temp agencies, a clear sign that employers remain hesitant about expanding their payrolls.

This isn't a knock on temp agencies. They provide an invaluable service, allowing companies to be flexible and quickly adapt to changing markets. But, the sharp growth in their business suggest that businesses will explore every option before committing to additional hiring.

One-Third of June Jobs in Temp Agencies

And I bet most of those were actually part time and have no insurance or benefits.

Companies use "temps" and avoid all connected expenses.

Some people think ObamaCare forced insurance will cause even more part time and temp jobs.

That leaves all the regular full time taxpayers to help with the cost of insurance for the part time and underpaid people.

How do we like this scene ?



"After all I did for you"

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Hey! Look at that! 4% unemployment in the year 2006 !

I guess it is possible!

:

You sir, are a bald faced liar.

As that chart clearly shows, unemployment in 06 was 4.4%, not 4%. With a nation of 300 million people, thats a HUGE discrepancy. You stated that repealing dodd frank and obamacare would lower unemployment to 4%, but Bush was never able to acheive that in his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY without either of those laws. So stop blaming Obama for a systemic problem that exited previous to his administration. It's partisan stupidity to pretend one party is different from the other.

4.4% is in the ballpark.

It's a lot better than 8.2% under Obama.
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We'll bring it down to a nice even 4.0 % for you in 2013 when President Mitt Romney

moves into the White House.

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


All we have to do is remove the - uncertainty - placed in the US economy by Obama.

- Repeal ObamaCare

- Repeal Dodd/Frank

- Drill - Baby - Drill........lower the price of gas to $2 a gallon

If we do those 3 things you will see the unemployment rate mysteriously fall to

4%.

Do you actually believe that partisan tripe? 4% it hasnt been that low since 2000. Why wasnt the previous administration able to see those numbers without dodd frank or obamacre?

Well they almost did.

Even with the financial disaster from 9-11.

Maybe those tax cut packages helped (before the Democrats took Congress away starting in 2007)

Elephant vs Donkey economics

Yr such a partisan tool, man. Why not show that chart back even further and look at the Clinton years? Oh, because it would totally contradict your nonsense partisan claims? I'm not defending Clinton, but your claims that deficits and unemployment are all to blame on democrats is just stupid. Clinton had the lowest unemployment and lowest deficits of any admin in the last 25 years. Your claims are nonsense, and you are a partisan GOP shill.

www.bls.gov...

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Hey! Look at that! 4% unemployment in the year 2006 !

I guess it is possible!

:

You sir, are a bald faced liar.

As that chart clearly shows, unemployment in 06 was 4.4%, not 4%. With a nation of 300 million people, thats a HUGE discrepancy. You stated that repealing dodd frank and obamacare would lower unemployment to 4%, but Bush was never able to acheive that in his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY without either of those laws. So stop blaming Obama for a systemic problem that exited previous to his administration. It's partisan stupidity to pretend one party is different from the other.

4.4% is in the ballpark.

It's a lot better than 8.2% under Obama.
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We'll bring it down to a nice even 4.0 % for you in 2013 when President Mitt Romney

moves into the White House.

Wow. Romney will be able to bring it down to the levels Clinton was able to acheive?

It's noteworthy you have so much faith in Romney. I applaud you for openly admitting you support Mitt Romney and the GOP, shill.

reply to post by stanguilles7


Yes, President Mitt Romney will succeed just like President Clinton.

Of course, Clinton did reap the benefits of the Dot.com bubble.

Al Gore didn't invent the internet but it sure added a lot of jobs.

The World Wide Web gave birth to companies like Google, Yahoo, Amazon and

eBay. Jobs - Jobs - Jobs !

Remember?

Originally posted by xuenchen


"After all I did for you"

Priceless !