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Right now, a lot of our problems stem directly from the fact that the wrong sort has finally gotten the upper hand; a particularly brutal and anti-democratic strain of American aristocrat that the other elites have mostly managed to keep away from the levers of power since the Revolution. Worse: this bunch has set a very ugly tone that's corrupted how people with power and money behave in every corner of our culture. Here's what happened, and how it happened, and what it means for America now.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
reply to post by Grumble
Ever notice how the first thing republican governments do is cut education, environmental, social programs and now are doing what they can to kill unions.
With the money saved from cutting these programs they redistribute the wealth to the elites and corporations. These are all bad for the general public.
For you people living in red states that will vote lock step with the republicans party look around and tell me how your local and state governments are serving your best interests.
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more forward-thinking, democratic Northern elites
While they've done their share of damage to the notion of democracy in the name of profit (as all financial elites inevitably do), this group has, for the most part, tempered its predatory instincts with a code that valued mass education and human rights...
Originally posted by Grumble
This topic is intensely interesting to me, as I am a former Republican who has been scratching his head for years wondering what happened to the party. This article, in my opinion, best expresses the causes behind the change. The question remains, how will people like me, believers in the political traditions of the northeast, find political relevance in today's America?
Article
Right now, a lot of our problems stem directly from the fact that the wrong sort has finally gotten the upper hand; a particularly brutal and anti-democratic strain of American aristocrat that the other elites have mostly managed to keep away from the levers of power since the Revolution. Worse: this bunch has set a very ugly tone that's corrupted how people with power and money behave in every corner of our culture. Here's what happened, and how it happened, and what it means for America now.
edit on 4-7-2012 by Grumble because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WTFover
reply to post by LDragonFire
Very funny! I write almost word for word, what you wrote, only showing it works both ways, and you accuse me of being off topic? Give me a break.
In fact, it appears it is you who didn't read the article very closely, because it also points to the fact that both parties have elitists at the helm. But, the author, like you prefers the
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more forward-thinking, democratic Northern elites
Yeah, that's a quote from the article. Which I might add, is huge steaming pile of crap, evidenced by that excerpt.
Here's another little gem, referring to your preferred "elites",
While they've done their share of damage to the notion of democracy in the name of profit (as all financial elites inevitably do), this group has, for the most part, tempered its predatory instincts with a code that valued mass education and human rights...
Isn't that a riot! Their "mass education" and social programs have done nothing for the poor in this country, but keep them trapped in a perpetual state of poverty and servitude. Every election cycle, the democrat "elites" promise to help the poor and bring them prosperity, through taking from those evil rich. When they don't do anything but throw a few crumbs down from their places on high, they always blame it on the others guys and promise to deliver, if they can just get elected one more time.
The article only serves to more deeply drive the wedges between us, the non-elites. More division means the elites gain a tighter grasp on the power and control, which is all they care about. I'm certain both sides appreciate you aiding them in that endeavor.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
I agree with your assertions that both parties are as bad as each other, but the OP is pointing out what has happened to the Republican party internally, not which party is more moral than the other.
As long as America runs according to the rules of Southern politics, economics and culture, we're no longer free citizens exercising our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as we've always understood them. Instead, we're being treated like serfs on Massa's plantation -- and increasingly, we're being granted our liberties only at Massa's pleasure. Welcome to Plantation America.