posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:28 AM
reply to post by GeorgiaGirl
The problem with your analogy is that a car doesn't have free will. The students do. It's clear you have never tried to teach.
If I remember correctly my analogy was referring to being professional at what you profess to be sorry if you disagree.
Ok, tell me... why are you the car? Are you claiming not to have free-will? Are you saying free-will is the problem... If you don't mind please
clarify this for me, I would like to be sure I understand exactly what you are saying so I do not misunderstand. I am curious because as a teacher of
23 years, surely you know kids in America have always had freewill and well many have been educated quite well in the past before mastery learning.
EDIT: I read a few more of your posts. Wow. I've been a teacher for 23 years, and love my job. Apparently you have a different set of experiences than
I loved teaching the children when I taught in the classroom. I stopped teaching when they wanted us to pry into the home life by tricking the child
into revealing personal family business. I guess you were fine with it yes? This is America, not Russia... we are not supposed to do that here.
So I did have a different experience...I knew it was wrong to betray the parents trust for a paycheck. I figure parents should know what shananagans
are going on when it comes to their child so they can protect their child and ensure they are learning exactly what they think their child is
The educational system isn't perfect, and you are right--many of the problems come from government mucking things up.
"Mucking things up"... that is how you describe it? Please if you will give me an example of this "mucking up"..if you don't mind please tell me how
they prevent you from teaching the children to read or add and subtract?
But I disagree with your main premise. I see hard working teachers who are making a difference with students--every single day. Not all teachers are
on par with "burger flippers"--in fact, I know of very few that are not hard working and professional.
That's good to hear. I do know that the media has a knack for highlighting the worst teachers just at the time congress has new legislation written
and ready to pass. (They use the hegelian dialectic too..just like The NEA and you teachers).
But I also see parents who try to game the system and kids who are allowed to act however they want to act, and the parents are the first to make
excuses for their child's behavior.
Game the system? excuse me.... are you not permitted to send a child to the office to be dealt with if they disrupt the class? It worked in the past.
If the reprimand doesn't work suspend or expel. It is more likely that there was a change in policy of some sort to provoke the loss of control in a
It's hard to overcome the parental influence, no matter how talented a teacher is.
Wow there it is...."Overcome parental influence" is applied not to poor behavior as we all see...but to the set values that the parents instill in the
children AS IF, you think it is ok to disregard parental rights. Maybe this is why America is wondering what happened to our country... they have no
clue that you have been teaching their children how bad America is and teaching them a we are a socialist democracy while never teaching them the
truth about our form of government and what made this country great in the first place. If you were aware that this is what the school system has
been doing and kept your mouth shut for that paycheck.... some might see that as a treasonous act.
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