F & F: Fast and Furious or False Flag?

Think about this:

A false flag operation is, by definition, a covert operation in which it's made to look like your own country has been attacked by an external enemy when in fact that attack was staged as a pretext to get support for a policy that otherwise would be unpopular.

The Fast and Furious operation put at minimum 2,000 weapons across the border into Mexico. Nobody knows where these weapons are now.

Presumably these weapons were used to kill a border patrol agent.

Congress has subpoenaed 140,000 pages of documents, and the Obama administration has refused to turn over approximately 133,000 pages, asserting Executive Privilege in a matter that the White House had denied knowledge of.

Sticking with the F & F theme, is it Far Fetched that the reason the guns were taken to Mexico and not tracked was to set up a false flag as the pretext to later crack down on illegal immigrants, and/or implement more Draconian gun control measures?

Why else would they fail to track the guns and now asset Executive Privilege and risk a contempt citation?

reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1


What?

Presumably

No, it's not presumably, it was proven that 2 of those weapons were ones that were being tracked by the US government.

And no, it's not a false flag. The US has been carrying on a proxy war in Mexico against the government for a long time now. The CIA makes most if not all their money on the drug trade in South America and the Middle East.

They must protect their interests. Either that, or it's a botched operation to assist in quelling the violence, and Obama and Eric Holder got caught with their pants down and now they are running scared.

The previous administration started a similar program, which was shut down and then re-created, expanded and now that it failed miserably and that presumaly these mexican drug lords know about it ( considering it's been in the media all this time) of course these weapons won't surface again, or they will in petty crimes.

The fact that they did all of this behind the government of Mexico's back is very telling of what kind of operation they wanted to run. In most cases Mexican authorities would have been involved in these kinds of programs.

~Tenth

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Proven by whom though?

I think thats the point the OP is trying to make... We are relying 100% no question asked on info coming from them?

reply to post by morder1


The white house and various other agenices like the ATF admitted that those guns were traced back to the ones that they allowed to "walk" accross the border.

It's not a secret.

~Tenth