Putin: Don't rush to strike Iran

Putin: Don't rush to strike Iran

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Warning from Putin: Visiting Russian president cautions Israel against hasty military action in Iran, says 'look at what happened to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan'

Putin's comments were made in a meeting with Shimon Peres in Jerusalem, after Israel's president asked the visiting leader to speak out on the Iran issue.

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Hey look at what happened to Russia in Afghanistan, and Iraq guess Putin "forgot" that Iran was right there fighting in Iraq.

True enough Iraq now has a pro Iranian regime just like Russia, and Putin is a pro Iranian regime who sells them military arms and nuclear power technology.

So sifting through the crap Russia is telling Isreal not to so they can make billions off them.

But there Putin says, "Russia wants peace for Isreal".

Seems to me that if Russia wanted peace for Isreal it would not be arming them and stopping the nuclear assistance to Iran.

Then Putin goes on to say "Isreal,Russia agree on Iran", saying that Iranian nuclear weapons would be a great danger for the Jewish state", and for the whole world,

Really?

Putin trying to have it both ways?

Selling arms and nuclear tech and then has the nerve to saying Iran is a danger to the world?

Russia is a grave danger to the world by selling it's nuclear technology.

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I guess Neo your then for the NATO expansion it seems and i bet you wouldn't mind the bilderbergs at all on what they are doing in the world.

Or the fact that our governments have allied themselves with two undemocratic in the middle east and they are no other then Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

And like those War Monger republicans you still view Iran as a threat?

I read that on drudge this morning as well. Wanted to wait to see if anyone else reports it out there in the MSM.

Ofcourse you know it. Russia wants a piece of the pie upfront just the way it did back in Iraq days. They prolly need to make of all the deliverables and collect the sum before they agree with the West We've seen this rhetoric, tactic previously.

reply to post by neo96


You need to take a reality check man. I see you still think America is the good guys and Russians are evil commies. Too much TV. Actually, they are two sides of the same thing, each pulling it's own side of the rope.

But you keep dreaming...

Aaah, yes, Russia. My country has been in war with Russia for three hundred years or so before our infamous two hundred years of peace. Even then, our relationships continue to be strained, because we know for a fact that Russia cannot ever be trusted.

The Soviet Union collapsed. So what?

The politics of communism may have fallen with the Soviet Union, but the same kind of people, shaped by the corrupt Russian society, still control the country today. And their methods haven't changed much from the Cold War. And why would they have? Putin himself is a creation of the Soviet Union, a former KGB agent, and he probably longs back for "the Good Old Days" himself, too.

I don't really care that much if Iran develops nukes, because I feel as a nation they have the right to decide their own military policies, and there is enough people worrying about it without me having to. But more to the point - if Russia supports Iran, then they most certainly do not see eye to eye with Israel on the issue, and therefor, they are enemies of Israel. What Putin is doing is simply smiling to the Israeli people, all the while holding the Russian hand cannon behind his back, ready to blow their brains out.

What is wrong with this?

Putin is saying that it would be stupid to rush an attack on Iran and it could turn out to be a financial disaster....along with many deaths of troops. Much like the wars we are currently waging in the Middle East.

I fact he says this:

"There is no need to do things too quickly; one should not act without thinking first."

Sounds pretty common sense to me!

Sure Russia wants to keep things peaceful! They are using free-trade prinicples to profit from nuclear power technology and defense spending in Iran. That's why he is clear to say that nuclear power is ok.....nuclear weapons are not.

Fact is that his intelligence people know Iran is just trying to create energy and are not trying to nuke the paranoid numbskulls in the West.

Why can't we read an important story without people twisting words to mean something it does not?

reply to post by Gauss


Jesus guys. Where do you think you live? In a corruption free society? America? Really? And you are constantly at war because you are being attacked? Just defending god and country?

Pretty naive for this century....

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


Actually, I'm from Sweden, so I'm not constantly at war. And we do have corruption in the West - a lot of it - but nowhere near the level of corruption in the Russian government. We say in the West half-jokingly that the Democrats and Republicans are mafia. But in Russia, they say the same thing about their own politicians - and unlike us they're completely serious.

reply to post by neo96


OK, I hold a special disdain for Putin but this is the best advice he ever could have given Israel.

Definitely better than what we're allowing them to do to countless civilians. Too bad they won't listen.

But anyways, we all know this is also just rhetoric. The game will play out its course and Israel WILL start a war in the Middle East. And it will be the last war we are most probably able to support/fight. We are already broke beyond repair and the next war is intended to push us over the edge and collapse the empire.


Khar

If one ignores country of origin and political persuasion, they're left with the message that is "War is Bad, mmkay?"

In all seriousness, who effin cares about Putin himself?

It's the message!

reply to post by Gauss


Somehow I doubt any of us know the depth of corruption. We only know those that get caught or made public. In America the capitalist free market society has made it legal to be corrupt. It's in fact encouraged by the constant consumer brain rape and awarded. Russians don't have that kind a system, but they still have the same crooks...only they are less hidden. The West has it's share of clandestine criminals to balance out.

What I'm trying to point out is that thinking one of them is somehow the good or the bad guy...is not a complete picture. If you go to Russia, you will probably see similar rhetoric aimed against the West. It's all propaganda. They all have interests...interests make very bad bed fellows with truth.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by Gauss

 

Somehow I doubt any of us know the depth of corruption. We only know those that get caught or made public. In America the capitalist free market society has made it legal to be corrupt. It's in fact encouraged by the constant consumer brain rape and awarded. Russians don't have that kind a system, but they still have the same crooks...only they are less hidden. The West has it's share of clandestine criminals to balance out.

What I'm trying to point out is that thinking one of them is somehow the good or the bad guy...is not a complete picture. If you go to Russia, you will probably see similar rhetoric aimed against the West. It's all propaganda. They all have interests...interests make very bad bed fellows with truth.

You make a persuasive argument. However, for all the corruption in the US, it is still hidden (though accepted), while the kind of accepted, open corruption that exists in Russia is far more dangerous, because it gives a whole different level of freedom to do whatever they want, to the crooks. I'm talking about threats, terror, even assassination. And also the fact that many people in the Russian government have connections to organized crime, something I don't *think* exists too much in the US.

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Out of respect for ATS, I won't point out your level of ineptitude in very rude words. But make no mistake, I am thinking it. If you can't read between the lines I will spell it out for you; The people in power in Russia, whether it be business or politics, are extremely friendly with organized crime. While we can call the Democrats and Republicans mafia, because they are indeed corrupt, they are not mafia. But in Russia, calling the government and/or politicians mafia is speaking the truth.

Also, I alerted on your post. I do not like being called a twat.

Typical Russian policy. They are masters at playing all angles of an issue. Saying all the right things when they need to. Personally, I do not see the need to rush things militarily against Iran. Besides, it seems the computer viruses and sanctions are working out.

I have not heard much from Iran on the international stage since those two items have been sent in their direction. Perhaps, they are enduring a humbling experience? In the meantime, continue gathering intelligence, do the large scale military exercises, and maintain enforcement of economic sanctions. The people get deprived enough and desperate enough? We could be on the cusp of a Persian Spring? I think the Iranian Regime is more vulnerable than ever. No need to rush things. Just keep an eye on them.

Originally posted by Gauss
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Out of respect for ATS, I won't point out your level of ineptitude in very rude words. But make no mistake, I am thinking it. If you can't read between the lines I will spell it out for you; The people in power in Russia, whether it be business or politics, are extremely friendly with organized crime. While we can call the Democrats and Republicans mafia, because they are indeed corrupt, they are not mafia. But in Russia, calling the government and/or politicians mafia is speaking the truth.

Also, I alerted on your post. I do not like being called a twat.

Oh I must have interpreted you wrong when you said that saying something as a joke makes it untrue! I guess that only applies when you want it to apply? Right.

I'll spell it out for you too, because you seem to ****** (censored myself just for you, don't worry, I'm thinking it anyway) to understand; The fact that Russia is more open about it doesn't mean that the ones who are NOT open about it are NOT corrupt. Of course, the entire financial game in the US is totally legit, no corruption here folks, just focus on Russia because they're the real corrupt ones! And Gauss is so gullible he'll eagerly spread the message he's been taught through propaganda.

It's all the same, only the game is played differently everywhere, if you can't understand this simple reality, I'm done with you. US good Russia bad, lmfao.

Lest we forget, the US gov is totally not involved in drug trafficking either, no sir!

Dream on. What more do you need to call a government maffia? Guns blazing in the streets? It's not because they're smarter about it now that it's no longer happening, read up on history before you come spewing your garbage here please, the US has an interesting one when it comes to involvement in organized crime, among other things

reply to post by ThisIsNotReality


Would you please point out where I said the US wasn't corrupt?

Pleeeeease and thank ya.

The "reality check" is the Middle East and Russia is just as corrupt if not more than the west anyone who thinks they have the "moral high ground" simply does not.

Putin stole the election the evidence of the was the beat downs of the streets of Russia.