Bible prophecy and how it ties with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

A few people had predicted the MB would be allowed to become leaders in Egypt. The idea being that it would serve to further isolate Israel in the run up to major conflict.

To understand this further, we can turn to bible prophecy to connect the dots-

Psalm 83:1-5, 12 (HCSB) — 2 See how Your enemies make an uproar; those who hate You have acted arrogantly. 3 They devise clever schemes against Your people; they conspire against Your treasured ones. 4 They say, “COME, let us wipe them out as a nation so that Israel’s name will no longer be remembered.” 5 For they have conspired with one mind; they form an alliance against You

'They say, “COME, let us wipe them out as a nation so that Israel’s name will no longer be remembered.” 5 For they have conspired with one mind; they form an alliance against You'.

This talks of an alliance against Israel that will occur. There have been many Arab Israeli conflicts since the creation of Israel, yet in the past 30 years Egypt has served as a stabiliser for the region since signing a peace treaty with Israel in 1979. We know that Mubarek was a puppet dictator of the USA and kept his people under incredible oppression and poverty.

Since the revolution, Mubarek is gone, the people have risen up and taken in the Muslim Brotherhood.

Given the above prophecy, watch what Safwat Higazi of the Muslim Brotherhood has to say about liberating Jersusalem-

'Millions of martrys, march to Jerusalem, banish the sleep from the eyes of all Jews, come on you lovers of martrydom, you are all Hamas,

So we have nations in the region adopting the idea of detroying Israel- Iran is already on that bandwagon as we know.

Reading further into Psalm 83-

Psalm 83:13-17 (HCSB) 13 Make them like tumbleweed, my God, like straw before the wind. 14 As fire burns a forest, as a flame blazes through mountains, 15 so pursue them with Your tempest and terrify them with Your storm. ...17 Let them be put to shame and terrified forever; let them perish in disgrace.

The analogies used bring to mind the fiery, storm-like blast of a nuclear bomb.

Now, we know Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons and also adopts what is called the Samson Option.-

en.wikipedia.org...

The Samson Option is a term used by various commentators to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well. The phrase also has been used more generally to describe Israel's nuclear program.

In 2006, in his book The Culture of War, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, wrote that since former United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates admitted that Israel had nuclear weapons, any talk of Israel's nuclear weapons in Israel can lead to "arrest, trial, and imprisonment." Thus Israeli commentators talk about "doomsday weapons" and the "Samson Option."[7]

Nevertheless, as early as 1976, the CIA believed that Israel possessed 10 to 20 nuclear weapons.[8] By 2002 it was estimated that the number had increased to between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range.[9] Kenneth S. Brower has estimated as many as 400 nuclear weapons.

So if Israel came under attack from an 'Arab alliance', they could use this option that is prophesied in Psalm 83.

This is also ties in with Isaiah 17:1-

Isaiah 17:1 (ESV) — An oracle concerning Damascus. Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city and will become a heap of ruins.

This is in relation to Israel using a nuclear weapon against Syria. With the 'Samson Option', Israel would nuke the cities of her enemies if she was overrun or about to be defeated. Hitting the leadership of Syria at Damascus would be part of this retaliatory attack.

If you go on with the rest of the passage...

6 the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ish'maelites;

of Moab, and the Hag'arenes;

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Am'alek;

the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

8 Assur also is joined with them:

they have helped the children of Lot.

This is not prophecy. This is talking about ancient events that have already transpired. These people and nations don't even exist today.

I love how you bible people pick and choose, but leave out the important parts. Seems like lying to me. Liars go to Hell.




This passage refers to something that happened in 600 BCE.

Why do you want to mislead your Christian brothers?

a million martyrs marching?

what do they plan on doing? taking the whole city on a stroll to Jerusalem and setting up camp?

Originally posted by Gwampo
a million martyrs marching?

what do they plan on doing? taking the whole city on a stroll to Jerusalem and setting up camp?

Muslim Brotherhood said it, not me.

Bury your head in the sands sheep.

It's what you all do best anyway.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by Gwampo
a million martyrs marching?

what do they plan on doing? taking the whole city on a stroll to Jerusalem and setting up camp?

Muslim Brotherhood said it, not me.

Bury your head in the sands sheep.

It's what you all do best anyway.

You LIED. Why would you leave out the important part of the passage that shows it's a story about a historical event? Why would you LIE to people about the BIBLE??


My head is not buried, I'm above ground seperating the horse # from the truth. Why do you want to perpetuate hatred and fear, using the bible as a vehicle?

Seems the OPPOSITE of what Christ and God would want of you. As I said before, liars and blasphemers go to Hell!

reply to post by TinkerHaus


It relates to modern events, the resemblance is right there in your face- especially given the muslim brotherhood is calling for the end of Israel.

And the Samson Option and Israel's hundreds of nuclear weapons are just made up too I assume?

reply to post by TinkerHaus


No, for example, Amalek-

The Amalekites were mostly nomads living southeast of the Jordan River and were descendants of Esau. Amalek forms the northern tribes of the Arabs. They became the ruling classes of the Persian Empire which encompasses Iran today. Iran's hatred of Israel, Jews, Zionists, and Christians stems from the same evil force present in Daniel's day.

It all relates to modern times.

Philistines - Palestinians

Verse 7 of Psalm 83 mentions Philistia and the inhabitants of Tyre. Philistia was located southwest of Israel, and Tyre was northwest of Israel. The inhabitants of Tyre compose today's inhabitants of Syria and Lebanon. The inhabitants of Tyre had evolved into the Phoenicians who later became Lebanon. Fascinating.

The modern terrorist group, the Hezbollah, operates out of Tyre with the help of Syria. And "Philistia" refers to those who later became residents of Gaza.

It all relates to modern times.

reply to post by Wonderer2012

Some portions of the Psalms are considered prophetic in Judaism, even though they are listed among the Ketuvim (Writings) and not the Nevi'im (Prophets).

The words Messiah and Christ mean "anointed one". In ancient times Jewish leaders were anointed with olive oil when they assumed their position (e.g. David, Saul, Isaac, Jacob). And "Messiah" is used as a name for kings in the Hebrew Bible: in 2Samuel 1:14 David finds King Saul's killer and asks, "Why were you not afraid to lift your hand to destroy the LORD's anointed?"

In many Psalms, whose authorship are traditionally ascribed to King David (i.e. Messiah David), the author writes about his life in third person, referring to himself as "the/God's/your messiah" while clearly discussing his military exploits. Thus it can be argued that many of the portions that are asserted to be prophetic Psalms may not be.

No, the passage you quoted was yet to happen.

You quoted it yet never even understood it-

With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you—
6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,
7 Byblos, Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
8 Even Assyria has joined them
to reinforce Lot’s descendants.
9 Do to them as you did to Midian,

'9 Do to them as you did to Midian'

It HAS NOT happened yet.

The places listed all relate to modern places.

If you want to deny the aims of the MB in Egypt and the region, you are burying your head in the sand.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
No, the passage you quoted was yet to happen.

You quoted it yet never even understood it-

With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you—
6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,
7 Byblos, Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
8 Even Assyria has joined them
to reinforce Lot’s descendants.
9 Do to them as you did to Midian,

'9 Do to them as you did to Midian'

It HAS NOT happened yet.

The places listed all relate to modern places.

If you want to deny the aims of the MB in Egypt and the region, you are burying your head in the sand.

edit on 26-6-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)

This was a rally cry from 600 BCE. It was talking of an imminent threat.

Theologians, academics and historians agree with me. =\

Originally posted by TinkerHaus

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
No, the passage you quoted was yet to happen.

You quoted it yet never even understood it-

With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you—
6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,
7 Byblos, Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
8 Even Assyria has joined them
to reinforce Lot’s descendants.
9 Do to them as you did to Midian,

'9 Do to them as you did to Midian'

It HAS NOT happened yet.

The places listed all relate to modern places.

If you want to deny the aims of the MB in Egypt and the region, you are burying your head in the sand.

edit on 26-6-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)

This was a rally cry from 600 BCE. It was talking of an imminent threat.

Theologians, academics and historians agree with me. =\

OK, even though it is yet to happen.

Is it by sheer unbelievable coincidence that once again Israel faces the same hordes of evil that are listed in the passage? All the places mentioned are enemies of Israel today.

Is the coming of the MB in Egypt and their call to take Jerusalem just an insignificant event in history? Just another coincidence?

Originally posted by TinkerHaus
If you go on with the rest of the passage...

6 the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ish'maelites;

of Moab, and the Hag'arenes;

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Am'alek;

the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

8 Assur also is joined with them:

they have helped the children of Lot.

This is not prophecy. This is talking about ancient events that have already transpired. These people and nations don't even exist today.

I love how you bible people pick and choose, but leave out the important parts. Seems like lying to me. Liars go to Hell.

This passage refers to something that happened in 600 BCE.

Why do you want to mislead your Christian brothers?

edit on 26-6-2012 by TinkerHaus because: (no reason given)

Yeah and of you knew anything about the bible other than reading it to use as a tool to refute others . The bible is clear that all scripture is given to us as an example on what to expect inthe last days . The bible tells us there is nothing new under the sun, what was will be . The names have changed ,the weapons are newer. It the land and people's remain the same.

Knowing that they are going by the prophecy playbook, it isn't hard to know when all this is to go down. Using the signals that they have previously given us, we can construct a rudimentary timeline for 2012 events.

On 8-24-11 was the Glenn Beck "rally to restore courage to Jerusalem"/ ritual replication of "restoring Jerusalem unto the messiah"/ Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy. Add literally 70 weeks unto the messiah and you get 12-25-12. (more details about this here: www.abovetopsecret.com...)

Using Ezekiel's 390 day war and 430 day war (Ezekiel 4), 8-24-11 plus 390 days is 9-17-12, Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish "Judgment Day", the Day of the Lord and when the dead are raised - (Interestingly, the CDC "Zombie Apocalypse" public service announcement was on May 16, 2011 - add 70 weeks unto the messiah and you get 9-17-12).

We know from Isaiah 17:14 that Israel is looted and plundered before the Day of the Lord, here meaning 9-17-2012 (in other words, "New Jerusalem"/ Britain is attacked at the Olympics). The Day of the Lord is when Israel destroys its enemies in one night- the "Samson option" as you mentioned. This would be day 1260, when a beast is destroyed. Add 30 days to get an Abomination of desolation date of 10-17-12, the 1290th day. Add 45 more days to get to the "blessed" date of the 1335th day, 12-2-12, which just happens to be Advent - which if you have read the "3 days of Darkness" catholic prophecy, says that this is the day that the "sign of the son of man" is revealed in heaven.

Again, 9-17-12 is the 390th day, when a war ends. It ends because the Day of the lord occurs.

10-27-12 is the 430th day, when the 2nd war ends. This timeframe of 9-17 to 10-27 would be the Psalm 83 war.

Going a bit more indepth with the 70 weeks prophecy: "Shabuwa"/ "weeks" also means years. Israel was created from commandment on 11-29-47. Add 70 years to get 11-29-17. Messiah comes at the end of the 69th year/ shabuwa (11-29-16). "After the 62nd shabuwa, messiah is cut off" - means from the 63rd shabuwa/ year through the end of the 69th year is what is referred to as the "7 year tribulation" - thus 11-29-09 through 11-29-16. 5-29-13 would be the mid point of this when the antichrist takes power.

In a similar fashion with this in terms of weeks, a fractal of the larger pattern if you will, the "mini-tribulation" within the 70 week ritual would be 10-31-12, the end of the 62nd week, start of the 63rd week through 12-19-12, the beginning of the 70th week, that ends on 12-25-12. The "antichrist" (antagonist to Israel) takes power in the exact middle of this 7 weeks, on 11-24-12. This is also the date as per hadith that Mahdi gives his call for global revolution!!! (According to the zohar, the jewish messiah will be cut off for 40 days to test the faith of Jews who will then fall for the deception of Armilus, the Jewish antichrist, potentially a decoy antichrist from a Christian POV. Therefore, the jewish messiah, the Christian antichrist dies "after the 62nd week" - 40 days (not 49 days) on 11-09-12. Mahdi "tempts" the disheartened Jews to get with him in his global address.

(Similar to the "Restoring Courage to Jerusalem" rally ritual, the Arab Spring was another 70 weeks unto their messiah. It started on 12-18-10 and it "ended" on the 70th week with the arrival of their messiah by 4-21-12. On 4-19-12, Jordan's prince Ghazi bin Muhammed visited the Temple Mount. www.ynetnews.com... The "antichrist" (antagonist) of the Arab Spring is Israel. The "mini-tribulation" of the Arab spring was 2-25-12 through 4-14-12 - coincident with all the saber rattling of Israel and the US against Iran. The mid-point of this is 3-20-12. This was when Israel's President Peres addresses Iran and tells them their gov't is oppressing them (in other words instigating a revolution against Iran!!!) blogs.forward.com... It is the exact counterpoint to the 11-24-12 mahdi speech to come on 11-24-12.

I guess I am basically saying that 11-24-12 kicks off Armageddon and ends sometime after 12-2-12. The peace treaty is signed on 12-19-12 and is broken on 12-21-12, the middle of the 70th week.

I've lost count now how many times on this forum a shill like figure will appear and completely undermine one of my threads only to not reply to genuine questions or points that challenge them.

I think I've reached the point where posting here is a waste of time.

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will cease to be a city and will become a heap of ruins.
isnt it that now as we speak,,?,,a Modern Day Free City, where happy people congregate,,,?,,its not longer a city.
become a heap of ruins.,,,,,ever been in a city that has been shelled,,in lots of Wars,,,ww2 lots of cities were shelled,,,
does not mean it goes nuclear.,,but they were "will cease to be a city and will become a heap of ruins."

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
reply to post by TinkerHaus

 

No, for example, Amalek-

The Amalekites were mostly nomads living southeast of the Jordan River and were descendants of Esau. Amalek forms the northern tribes of the Arabs. Iran's hatred of Israel, Jews, Zionists, Zionists, and Christians stems from the same evil force present in Daniel's day.

It all relates to modern times.

Looks like your the sheep here.

Persian Jews

Iran's Jewish population was reduced from 100,000–150,000 in 1948 to about 80,000 immediately before the Iranian Revolution, due mostly to immigration to Israel. While immigration to Israel had slowed in the 1970s and the Jewish population of Iran had stabilized, the majority of Iran's remaining Jews left the country in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Shah. The current Jewish population of Iran is estimated by most sources to be 25,000,[11][12][13][14] though estimates vary, with some as low as 17,000[15] and as high as 40,000.[16] Notable population centers include Tehran, Isfahan (1,200),[17] and Shiraz. Historically, Jews maintained a presence in many more Iranian cities. Jews are protected in the Iranian constitution and seat is reserved for a Jew in the Majlis.[12] Iran hosts the largest Jewish population of any Muslim-majority country.[18] After Israel, it is home to the second-largest Jewish population in the Middle East.[1

I didn't say it, wikipedia did. Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing. Again, looks like your the sheep here. Tell me, if they hate jews so badly then why not do away with 25,000 or so left in their country? Why even give them a seat in their Parliament? A country of 75 million saves a spot in their parliament for less than 1% of the population? Yeah... they must be so hated...

Originally posted by conspiracy88

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
reply to post by TinkerHaus

 

No, for example, Amalek-

The Amalekites were mostly nomads living southeast of the Jordan River and were descendants of Esau. Amalek forms the northern tribes of the Arabs. Iran's hatred of Israel, Jews, Zionists, Zionists, and Christians stems from the same evil force present in Daniel's day.

It all relates to modern times.

Looks like your the sheep here.

Persian Jews

Iran's Jewish population was reduced from 100,000–150,000 in 1948 to about 80,000 immediately before the Iranian Revolution, due mostly to immigration to Israel. While immigration to Israel had slowed in the 1970s and the Jewish population of Iran had stabilized, the majority of Iran's remaining Jews left the country in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Shah. The current Jewish population of Iran is estimated by most sources to be 25,000,[11][12][13][14] though estimates vary, with some as low as 17,000[15] and as high as 40,000.[16] Notable population centers include Tehran, Isfahan (1,200),[17] and Shiraz. Historically, Jews maintained a presence in many more Iranian cities. Jews are protected in the Iranian constitution and seat is reserved for a Jew in the Majlis.[12] Iran hosts the largest Jewish population of any Muslim-majority country.[18] After Israel, it is home to the second-largest Jewish population in the Middle East.[1

I didn't say it, wikipedia did. Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing. Again, looks like your the sheep here. Tell me, if they hate jews so badly then why not do away with 25,000 or so left in their country? Why even give them a seat in their Parliament? A country of 75 million saves a spot in their parliament for less than 1% of the population? Yeah... they must be so hated...

Sweet baby jesus you are educating me that Zionists are not Jews!

Have you read any of my threads?

I've proposed MANY TIMES before that Zionism is a tool of the Illuminati that is seeking to destroy the world as we know it through bible prophecy.

The Zionists set up Israel, the Zionists are setting the stage so what is spoken in the bible will happen again- that is their agenda- for history to repeat itself.

The evidence is all around us and you come in here saying I'm a sheep and tell me Zionists are not Jews Bravo sir, bravo!