So who is participating in the fake elections?

You really do have to be dull if you are still falling for the dialectic. You vote in republicrats and you get war and debt. You vote in democons and you get war and debt. The economy of the US is a shambles. I heard a liberal on Fox news say that the stock market is doing great and that proves that the economy is doing great. Weren't they saying that around oh I don't know June 1929? Then came October. Democrats and Republicans worked together to cause it all.

The Presidents appease their base by throwing petty bones to them. The media keeps the political bias programming running hot. The sheeple dutifully defend their respective political masters. All the while the people in charge continue to sell out America and implement CFR policy. No matter what party is in charge of congress or the presidency.

Please do not mention controlled opposition, Ron Paul.

When will you ever wake up? Before you elect them people with real power select them. Stop falling for the us vs them emotion baiting that is being used on you. Be willing to look at the faults of the party you support. When someone makes a negative statement about your party resist the kneejerk defensiveness. Take an open minded look at what they have said. All of the politicians are owned. They are not your friend. Do not let them buy you off. If you do then sorry friend but you are as rotten as they are.

How can the Ron Paul supporters not see that the guy doesn't want to be president? He doesn't speak out against any of the election fraud that goes on and even tells his people to shut up and be respectful about it. Does that sound like someone fighting to become president?

I will never vote rep. OR dem. ever again after joining ATS

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Correct. Indeed, not the behavior of the leader of a so called revolution. More like a sheepdog. You know the dog "the man" are working together?

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You really do have to be dull if you are still falling for the dialectic.

I've never denied being dull, check my signature.

Your first paragraph seems to take the position that Republicans and Democrats are the same, it doesn't matter who you vote for. But then you say:

Be willing to look at the faults of the party you support. When someone makes a negative statement about your party resist the kneejerk defensiveness. Take an open minded look at what they have said.

Why? If I take an open minded look and decide the other party is better and vote for it, as you've said it makes no difference.

Unless you're saying "Don't vote for Republicans, don't vote for Democrats, vote for someone who is currently really on the fringe." And who might that be? Which fringe party would you have us vote for.

You can't be calling for revolution, if you were you wouldn't suggest being willing to look at the faults in our party. Why bother? The revolution would tear them all down anyway.

So, as someone once said "What's up, Doc?"

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I never said to listen to criticism of your party so you can vote for the other party. Where did I say "take an open minded look and decide the other party is better and vote for it"? I never said that. There is no viable choice ever. What I said at first stands and never changed, except in your own mind. I said what I said to try to break down the wall of loyalty and internalized partyism that people have developed. I used to have it. I would become offended when people attacked my party. I still feel that and remind myself that I am not that person anymore and "my party" is just as bad as the other party.

And where did I call for revolution? Never. Go make your own thread or stop interjecting things into mine that are not there. There can be no revolution. All opposition is controlled. If you do not understand this then you have not realized the fundamental truth. It is all fake. The US is under the most sophisticated technological dictatorship ever devised.

Look at the title of the Thread "FAKE ELECTIONS". There is no choice that is real.

I'm not voting and this will cause great discord between my husband and me.

He is still into Obama.

Personally, I believe it's a rigged system.............TPTB have already decided the next POTUS and he/she/it will dance to the strings exactly as the puppet master dictates.

The voting game is designed to give everyone the illusion they have a say so.

By the way things are going, it appears to me, we have had no say so since JFK.

May God have mercy on our souls.

A prisoner that has no comprehension he/she is imprisoned will never try to escape.
A slave that has no idea they are enslaved will never rebel. OHD

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
I'm not voting and this will cause great discord between my husband and me.

He is still into Obama.

Personally, I believe it's a rigged system.............TPTB have already decided the next POTUS and he/she/it will dance to the strings exactly as the puppet master dictates.

The voting game is designed to give everyone the illusion they have a say so.

By the way things are going, it appears to me, we have had no say so since JFK.

May God have mercy on our souls.

A prisoner that has no comprehension he/she is imprisoned will never try to escape.
A slave that has no idea they are enslaved will never rebel. OHD

edit on 14-6-2012 by ofhumandescent because: (no reason given)

Wow. I see you.

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Dear Numbers33four,

Seriously, no offense intended. I'm just trying to follow your thinking, I'm not hostile to you. I misunderstood, let me try again. Are you saying, "The elections are fake, don't participate in them at all?" If you're not saying that, it seems like the alternative is to participate in the elections. If that's what your thinking let me know how you decide for whom to vote.

With respect,
Charles1952

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I will not come out and say "do not vote". That borders on disenfranchisement. What I can do is tell you my opinion on the state of things. Considering the state of things I would think myself stupid if I ever cast another vote.

Sorry for any misunderstanding, but some of these things are very abstract and complex for my simple mind to put them into words that make sense to other people.

This about sums it up.

Democrats / Republicans are different sides to the exact same coin and there is one power flipping that friggin coin.

Heads I win, tails you lose.

It doesn't matter democrat,liberal or republican
They are slaves to the Zionism.

Originally posted by Numbers33four
You really do have to be dull if you are still falling for the dialectic. You vote in republicrats and you get war and debt. You vote in democons and you get war and debt. The economy of the US is a shambles. I heard a liberal on Fox news say that the stock market is doing great and that proves that the economy is doing great. Weren't they saying that around oh I don't know June 1929? Then came October. Democrats and Republicans worked together to cause it all.

You are correct sir. There was a whole splotch of recessions in the early-mid 1920s just before the great depression. People thought: "Meh, nothing to worry about"... then: BOOM! The system collapsed.

Maybe find a way to get our business leaders to stop screwing with the economy like it's a ponzi scheme.

wikipedia.org

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This game if Texas hold em has a few more cycles before pop culture finally draws a critical mass of political atheists. But the shadow elite know how predictable and programmable we are.

You should be asking Pere Valles CEO of SCYTL , He is the one in charge of 'counting' your electronic vote with no paper ballot for a re-count.
He is a socialist that donated millions to Obama in 2008, why do you think he was allowed to buy SCYTL in the first place?
www.westernjournalism.com...


The election is in the bag for Obama, I stopped worrying about it and started preparing for an American economic collapse. You should too.