posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 11:00 AM
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
If humans, animals and everything in physical existence were created from "Stardust" and a big bang.. what was the initial act that caused a bang in
the first place? Nothing cannot come from nothing, because that makes no sense and is just impossible.
I agree. Nothing cannot come from nothing. So, where did your god come from? Where did your universal consciousness come from? If you can't answer
this, then you haven't answered anything.
You need to go back and get rid of your belief system's fatal internal contradiction. Unless you are okay with presenting an emergence theory that's
no better than evolution or the Big Bang or any of the other non-origin theories that waste everyone's time. If your theory depends on a convoluted
flood of semantics, or the faith-based acceptance of a non-physical infinite intelligence that somehow invented a completely incompatible physical
existence and stapled it to an equally incompatible time continuum, then you haven't got an emergence theory. You've got a creation narrative, and
that's very different than an emergence theory.
You had it right in that first paragraph, and then you walked right off on it without dealing with that initial accurate assessment. By inventing a
fully conscious intelligence without explaining how that full conscious intelligence came into existence, you're putting the ultimate horse before
the ultimate cart, unless you actually think that a rock or a tree is more sophisticated and progressively developed than the mind of God. Personally,
I don't see rocks and trees as being all that complex. Not even as complex as the mind of a human being.
This is philosiphy, and we live in a convulated universe.. so everything is convulated until understood correctly. Being a minor of awaresness
(human-conscious) it is very hard to understand the entirety of creation and spirit and all the knowledge behind both. You cant expect every human
being to understand such a complexity of creation and layers of realities.. .
The creator (fully conscious intelleigene as you say) is much higher and complete then any of yours and myselve's awareness combined.. we cannot
reach such a level of complete awarenses or we would not be able to incarnate as humans in such a dense reality, our energy would disingrate the human
vessel.. Where creator came from ? That is beyond a stupid question.. I do not have that awareness or knowledge, I dont think there are many who
understand the spiritual-creator itself, at least in this and the next layers of realtiy.. it's too far to comprehend for a human mind.
My spiritual journey just started, I can compare myself as the Phoenix rising from its ashes, about to journey to its destiny. At 20 years old, I have
time to have much more spiritual expereinces and synchronicities.
By the way.. your blabbling about trees and rocks and their complexity.. did you know it is impossible to replicate a tree? Humans do not come close
to that technology. Why do you think your awareness is so ultimate and everything else is fantasy and hazy? Im truly curious as to what your
experiences on your path are? Please share, this is a thread of Philosiphy, not fantasy.. instead of disagreeing and bashing, offer your own insight
on creation, awareness, reality..
I am very very aware that I do not understand the convulated creation; and there are many ahead of me on their journeys to truth, many who have are
much higher in awareness and spirit then myself. But I do not compete.. it is an everlasting 'game' of growth and expereince, that of Soul-Journey.
If you have anything you would like to share of your own experiences or philosiphies, that would be perfect
No need to be bold and bash everything
you cant make sense of.. I dont understand creation, but I will not bash it. I am highly aware my spiritual journey of Earth has just begun.
~ Love is an art