How are you going to fuel your luxury 4x4 during the apocalypse?

I take the view that one should aspire to live a sustainable yet luxurious sort of life when the SHTF. Why do you have to look like a mountain man and smell like a goat just because the end is neigh?


With the correct preparation, which includes fitness training and personal technical development, a disaster survivor can be tooled up to be master of his environment.

So the objective for the survivalist should be big returns for minimum effort to ensure an enhanced quality of life with enough room for continued personal development.

One of the things that will be a problem to get a hold of will be fuel to run generators and vehicles. I know there are sustainable technologies such as photo voltaics and wind generators but the quantities needed to sustain a couple of families and their machine shop, irrigation systems and appliances would be prohibitive.

Some probably think they could draw fuel from redundant service stations untouched since the great die off. Unfortunately petrol goes stale in about 6 months and diesel could be easily spoiled through condensation in their tanks.

Unless you decide to specialise in growing rapeseed or sunflowers to harvest for oil pressing instead of growing food, you will need to think latterly.

I suggest mining for the hydrogenated vegetable oil that is congealed in the sewage of the great cities.



A couple of suitably attired and gas mask wearing survivalists could dig out a couple of tons of fat every month or so for filtering, processing and storing in their redoubts.



The equipment needed to run one Range Rover can be carried in the vehicle;



Here is an excellent website that offers advice;

www.bio-power.co.uk...

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I'll put my Rolly in a Bunker, just the thought of sitting in it is enough.

Originally posted by DeadSnow
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I'll put my Rolly in a Bunker, just the thought of sitting in it is enough.

edit on 4-6-2012 by DeadSnow because: spelling.

If you had a diesel RR, you could fuel it and make it to Damnation Ally.

The americans won't have to dig for fat for a few years at least as theres loads of fatties there who'll be the first to die anyway so will just require some effort in the conversion of 500lbs of fat into a drum of fuel

Originally posted by Maxatoria
The americans won't have to dig for fat for a few years at least as theres loads of fatties there who'll be the first to die anyway so will just require some effort in the conversion of 500lbs of fat into a drum of fuel

Obesity is a huge problem in the UK too. They say by 2020 1/3 of people in the UK will be obese. Don't you guys have a massive problem with 12 year olds having babies too? Also massive binge drinking?

Before you start making uneducated, insensitive, and ignorant comments, you should take a look at your own.

So I guess the problem in the UK will be drunken teen mothers who've never learned to drive.. Also fat people.

My 4x4 isn't luxury, but I do have access to 500 gallons of fuel - I just have to make about a 150 mile drive to do so. Before that runs out I'd be foraging to keep it filled. =]

Originally posted by MI5edtoDeath

Originally posted by DeadSnow
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I'll put my Rolly in a Bunker, just the thought of sitting in it is enough.

edit on 4-6-2012 by DeadSnow because: spelling.

If you had a diesel RR, you could fuel it and make it to Damnation Ally.

V12 petrol, 6.75l, 5,600lb car....Uh Goodluck with whoever will attempt that. "2 miles an hour so everyone can kill you".

Why waste time with a vehicle that will break down and become useless? When this happens it's time to go back to real horsepower. Yes you may not get there as fast or carry as much but at last when you can't use it anymore you can eat it.

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Your aspirations of luxury would make you a prime target for bandits and non-desirables. You should plan to keep as low a profile as possible. I can't think of anything that screams "Rob me please!" louder during a situation like that, than driving an SUV around. I would say good luck but it will take more than that to help you if you actually plan on doing that.

Originally posted by buster2010
Why waste time with a vehicle that will break down and become useless? When this happens it's time to go back to real horsepower. Yes you may not get there as fast or carry as much but at last when you can't use it anymore you can eat it.

Men will be Men, We will drink grease if we have to but we need our cars!

Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
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Your aspirations of luxury would make you a prime target for bandits and non-desirables. You should plan to keep as low a profile as possible. I can't think of anything that screams "Rob me please!" louder during a situation like that, than driving an SUV around. I would say good luck but it will take more than that to help you if you actually plan on doing that.

I am operating on the assumption that most idiots will die off in the first few years and there will come a time when a new normality sets in but one will have to be self sufficient.

No doubt one will have to keep a low profile with marauding bandits and psychopathic warlords but when they are gone, survivors should try to live well.

Originally posted by MI5edtoDeath
I take the view that one should aspire to live a sustainable yet luxurious sort of life when the SHTF. Why do you have to look like a mountain man and smell like a goat just because the end is neigh?

With the correct preparation, which includes fitness training and personal technical development, a disaster survivor can be tooled up to be master of his environment.

So the objective for the survivalist should be big returns for minimum effort to ensure an enhanced quality of life with enough room for continued personal development.

One of the things that will be a problem to get a hold of will be fuel to run generators and vehicles. I know there are sustainable technologies such as photo voltaics and wind generators but the quantities needed to sustain a couple of families and their machine shop, irrigation systems and appliances would be prohibitive.

Some probably think they could draw fuel from redundant service stations untouched since the great die off. Unfortunately petrol goes stale in about 6 months and diesel could be easily spoiled through condensation in their tanks.

Unless you decide to specialise in growing rapeseed or sunflowers to harvest for oil pressing instead of growing food, you will need to think latterly.

I suggest mining for the hydrogenated vegetable oil that is congealed in the sewage of the great cities.

A couple of suitably attired and gas mask wearing survivalists could dig out a couple of tons of fat every month or so for filtering, processing and storing in their redoubts.

The equipment needed to run one Range Rover can be carried in the vehicle;

Here is an excellent website that offers advice;

www.bio-power.co.uk...

edit on 4-6-2012 by MI5edtoDeath because: (no reason given)

first think I thought with that picture was BOMB lol.... when the SHTF there will be no fuel and an abundence of cars... I myself will break the car apart for all its parts and build and attach it to my windmill providing enough power to fill my water tower so I have running water and a small energy source.

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But how is your windmill going to take you to Damnation Alley?













The awesomeness of the Landmaster

Originally posted by MI5edtoDeath
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But how is your windmill going to take you to Damnation Alley?

who says I'm damned?

Damnation Alley?? is this a requirement for your religion maybe? if so sorry doesn't apply for me.

Unless all of the trees are gone... How about a Gasifier?

Gasifier

its a good idea you have but not logical you need to think of how things were before power yes we did not always have power lines impeding on our land.

I have two horses dogs and endless amounts of land around me I have high ground a spring for water and planty of animals to hunt soil to plant. my house still has the windmill that was used to pump water 100yrs ago its not rocket science its 1000 year old tech that is easily maintained and quiet if we had to we could use the outhouse and never go to town. just say the word and our driveway is cutoff and we are self sustained,

I do have diesel truck and one thing you forget is diesels will run on anything they have water separators already built in unless it gets too cold then the fuel gels up a diesel will run on old gas or even paint thinner they really dont care. but I would much rather hop on my horse with a rifle and git er dun.

A 4x4 actually could be a very useful bug-out vehicle. pull out the seats and add a luggage rack. Their high ground clearance could be very valuable in a crisis.

Also the big cup holders, for my super size coffee.

Me and my Family are all preppers,
After We buy a farm, We are getting 2 Duece and a half's. The thing is, They run on ANYTHING. Be it vegetable oil, Crude oil, Gasoline, Diesel and Even Hairspray and perfume. Once all the car's on the highway are stuck dead and Everybody has Siphoned the fuel out of them, I will be Siphoning the Oil out of them! MUAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Thinair1
Me and my Family are all preppers,
After We buy a farm, We are getting 2 Duece and a half's. The thing is, They run on ANYTHING. Be it vegetable oil, Crude oil, Gasoline, Diesel and Even Hairspray and perfume. Once all the car's on the highway are stuck dead and Everybody has Siphoned the fuel out of them, I will be Siphoning the Oil out of them! MUAHAHAHA

You don't need to siphon oil from them.. You could simply pull the pan plug and drain it out.

Even if you got the fuel and lived in a city, your car may likely be useless anyway with the congested traffic. This is what I would be doing. Investing in a few horses (enough for my family) and learning how to ride for free and without the worry of running out of petrol. Even if it was hard still, I'm sure instinct would kick in and trampling everyone on your way out would be fine in that type of situation

Originally posted by DarknStormy
Even if you got the fuel and lived in a city, your car may likely be useless anyway with the congested traffic. This is what I would be doing. Investing in a few horses (enough for my family) and learning how to ride for free and without the worry of running out of petrol. Even if it was hard still, I'm sure instinct would kick in and trampling everyone on your way out would be fine in that type of situation

4x4 and crass verges on highways are a good combo. When you get to the city outskirts, you unload your BMW G450 dirt bike with noise suppression muffler for recon and scavenging.