NASA: our solar system passing into INTERSTELLAR CLOUD that 'should not exist', may collide

passing thru our galaxy's photon belt which has a temp of ~6000C for approx the next 20,000 yrs

our solar system could sooner or later eventually collide with other solar system(s)

solarstormwarning.com...
www.nasa.gov...



and to top it off, brand new NASA IBEX study has discovered that our heliosphere IS NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH to create a 'BOW SHOCK' a bow shock being what NASA had assumed our sun/solar system has but many other surrounding stars do, which functions for them to plow thru interstellar matter

"Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), a Nasa IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system."
-May 10, 2012

IBEX's Slower Sun — and No Bow Shock NASA's Interstellar Boundary Explorer has discovered that the Sun has no bow shock, overturning decades of scientific research.

and within our own solar sytem, things are 'heating' up!

Interesting post, but I suspect we will probably be long gone, as a species, before any of this becomes a problem...
Thanks for posting !

well assuming (from what i have heard, unsure if it is correct or not in any way) that our solar system enters this fluffy hot lalalaing cloud, i hope our sun holds up real good, (assuming it actually works that way) so we don't get all roasty toasty crispy crackly. (and dead, oh noes)

O_O

Wow this thread can turn out to be extremely interesting!

Surely Earths magnetosphere and atmosphere will protect us.
Also the Sun´s heliosphere I presume?
With 6000°C close by, spacewalks and other project around would seem to be rather dangerous. But that will not be a constant temperature right?

This article is old, but perhaps of interest.

Sun´s protective bubble is shrinking

The protective bubble around the sun that helps to shield the Earth from harmful interstellar radiation is shrinking and getting weaker, Nasa scientists have warned.

New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago.

"Around 90 per cent of the galactic cosmic radiation is deflected by our heliosphere, so the boundary protects us from this harsh galactic environment."

Originally posted by LiberalSceptic
Wow this thread can turn out to be extremely interesting!

Seems to me like the typical fear mongering we see all to often.

NASA has discovered their old model didn't work... looking at new models now.

The only real worry is they do need to upgrade the grid for Solar eruptions from the sun. It took out the telegraph wires in the 1800's... it could do a lot more damage now.

But that has been known and reported for centuries. It will probably take a bad flare and some damage to motivate Congress to do what they should have done decades or more ago about our grid.. it can be grounded they just aren't doing it.

reply to post by BiggerPicture


6000 celsius temperature of the photon belt? Evidence on the temperature please.

reply to post by pianopraze


I won't regard this as a joke considering some of the remote viewing data and what a scientist told me.The intensity of disasters will increase ,but humanity will adapt.

reply to post by SoymilkAlaska


reminds of Mr.Doom's Ed james killshot hypothesis.

The solar journey through space is carrying us through a cluster of very low density interstellar clouds. Right now the Sun is inside of a cloud that is so tenuous that the interstellar gas detected by IBEX is as sparse as a handful of air stretched over a column that is hundreds of light years long. These clouds are identified by their motions. Credit: NASA/Goddard/Adler/U. Chicago/Wesleyan

Doom porn threads

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Hopefully, you mean aboard the Starship Enterprise from that article that said it could be built in 20 years ... right

reply to post by RealSpoke


the cloud is more dense than that.That I am certain about. But we are 'doomed' not.

Originally posted by pianopraze

Originally posted by LiberalSceptic
Wow this thread can turn out to be extremely interesting!

Seems to me like the typical fear mongering we see all to often.

NASA has discovered their old model didn't work... looking at new models now.

The only real worry is they do need to upgrade the grid for Solar eruptions from the sun. It took out the telegraph wires in the 1800's... it could do a lot more damage now.

But that has been known and reported for centuries. It will probably take a bad flare and some damage to motivate Congress to do what they should have done decades or more ago about our grid.. it can be grounded they just aren't doing it.

edit on 15-5-2012 by pianopraze because: typo

It will certainly do more damage now, since just about everything we have in our society is run by electric components.
I will start to rebuild my garage into an Faraday Cage

reply to post by BiggerPicture


Luke 21 explains this:

27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

ASK YOURSELF IF THIS CLOUD IS AN EARTHLY CLOUD.

29 He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

THE FIG TREE IS ISRAEL. A GENERATION IS 70 YEARS. DO THE MATH: 1948+70=2018. SUBTRACT 7 YEARS FOR TRIBULATION. YOU GET 2012.

32 “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

A TRUE GENERATION IS 72.222 BASED ON THE PRECESSION OF THE EARTH. 26000 DIVIDED BY THE DEGREES OF A CIRCLE (360) = 72.222. JESUS SAID THAT THIS GENERATION WILL NO PASS UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS ARE FINISHED.

34 “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

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from your first link:

...Astrophysicist Alexei Dmitriev says that both Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 satellites reveal that our sun, as well as our entire solar system, is now moving into an interstellar energy cloud.
Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University says this interstellar energy cloud is turbulent.
Dmitriev explains that this cloud of energy is exciting the atmospheres of our planets and especially our sun. As this interstellar energy cloud continues to excite/charge the sun, it causes the sun to become more active/violent, resulting in greater output from the sun. IE: Bigger and more frequent solar storms and CME's resulting in the Carrington effect.
This interstellar cloud of electrical energy is also absorbed by the Earth, and scientist have found that it results in more earth quakes, all while dramatically effecting our weather here on earth. When asked how long will it take our sun to pass through this interstellar energy cloud, Dr. Dmitriev replied, "I don't know. But If I had to guess, I would say somewhere between two thousand to three thousand years." This interstellar cloud is a wispy band of charged particles through which our solar system is slowly moving through.

**- a cloud of 'electrical energy' causes more earthquakes on the Earth ???
**- it will take 2 - 3,000 years to (slowly) pass through this cloud of electrical energy ??

...It turns out that our solar system is moving nearly 100,000 m.p.h. faster than previously thought — revolving around the center of the Milky Way at 568,000 m.p.h., announced Mark Reid of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics...

www.worldculturepictorial.com...


the 'cloud' has to be some element like hydrogen or helium, but the hype says it is hot as plasma and charged electrons (electricity)...my BS meter is going ding-ding-ding



besides...do the math... the Solar System orbiting at 568,000 MPH for 2,000 years means this 'cloud' is some +1 or so light years big - (~9 trillion miles equal 1 LY)
--UNbelieveable !

9,951.360,000,000.miles minimum

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
DO THE MATH: 1948+70=2018. SUBTRACT 7 YEARS FOR TRIBULATION. YOU GET 2012.

I'm pretty good in math and 2018-7 is 2011 for me so I'm not buying anything of that

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your math is correct, i was saying this cloud is huge & that the solar system isn't passing slowly through this cloud... the Earth & Sun are blistering through the cloud at better than 1/2 million MPH

someone questioned the local fluff/insterstellar cloud temp-

Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C. The existential mystery of the Fluff has to do with its surroundings. About 10 million years ago, a cluster of supernovas exploded nearby, creating a giant bubble of million-degree gas. The Fluff is completely surrounded by this high-pressure supernova exhaust and should be crushed or dispersed by it.

"The observed temperature and density of the local cloud do not provide enough pressure to resist the 'crushing action' of the hot gas around it," says Opher. So how does the Fluff survive? The Voyagers have found an answer. "Voyager data show that the Fluff is much more strongly magnetized than anyone had previously suspected—between 4 and 5 microgauss*," says Opher. "This magnetic field can provide the extra pressure required to resist destruction."

so hopefully our solar system or earth can survive crushing pressures without the 'bow shock' since we dont have any we have maybe just a heliosphere (and earths weakening magnetosphere?) to rely on for some shielding...

so, theres an interstellar cloud that is intragalactic,

then there are are multiple galaxies colliding intergalactically,

and oh theres also the intergalactic plane vs intergalactic equator theories, that we are also passing thru

when it rains it pours?

its weird when ATSers inject/scream doom & gloom labels into galactic events. ie, galaxies colliding is doom and gloom? who is to say that esp considering knowing of the universal cycle of frozen to hi-energy photons

it would be nice to know/caliber a bit in this lifetime how our sun might hold up for the next 20 somethin thousand yrs regardless of fact our 'species' will be long extinct - our energy perhaps live on in some stardust or etherial/spirit form



more on temps... hmm is there really nothin colder than absolute zero and is there a limit to how 'hot hot hot' it can get in the universe??

Well actually that energy is already closeby. I believe its going to penetrate everything. Think its the same mysterious plumes from the Galactic Center.

There have been many posts.

La Violette theory.

paneandov.com...

Payne Andov has a lot info from NASA put together and what could happen to the Sun.

In additon the magnetic strips are most likely here as well.

tmgnow.com...

Originally posted by St Udio

 

the 'cloud' has to be some element like hydrogen or helium, but the hype says it is hot as plasma and charged electrons (electricity)...my BS meter is going ding-ding-ding

 

besides...do the math... the Solar System orbiting at 568,000 MPH for 2,000 years means this 'cloud' is some +1 or so light years big - (~9 trillion miles equal 1 LY)
--UNbelieveable !

9,951.360,000,000.miles minimum

science.nasa.gov...

Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C. The existential mystery of the Fluff has to do with its surroundings. About 10 million years ago, a cluster of supernovas exploded nearby, creating a giant bubble of million-degree gas. The Fluff is completely surrounded by this high-pressure supernova exhaust and should be crushed or dispersed by it.
"The observed temperature and density of the local cloud do not provide enough pressure to resist the 'crushing action' of the hot gas around it," says Opher.
So how does the Fluff survive? The Voyagers have found an answer.
"Voyager data show that the Fluff is much more strongly magnetized than anyone had previously suspected—between 4 and 5 microgauss*," says Opher. "This magnetic field can provide the extra pressure required to resist destruction."

The above explains it all.

That above article is also a couple of years old. They've made new discoveries.
www.abc.net.au...

Our solar system's journey through space is slower and heading in a different direction to what was previously thought, according to new data.

IBEX principle investigator, Dr David McComas from the South West Research Institute in Texas, and colleagues calculated the speed of the heliosphere with respect to the interstellar medium as 23.2 kilometres per second - significantly less than the previous estimate of 26.3 kilometres per second.

They also determined that the heliosphere's interstellar interaction is weaker and more magnetically dominated than previously thought.
McComas and colleagues say this explains the lack of a bow shock, where the interstellar medium abruptly slows before hitting the heliosphere.

passing thru our galaxy's photon belt which has a temp of ~6000C for approx the next 20,000 yrs

There is no "photon belt".

We have been traversing the interstellar fluff for thousands of years with no apparent effect.

When it comes to temperatures of plasma 6000º is no big deal. In fact it's rather chilly. We are surrounded with plasma from the Sun at a temperature of more than 100,000º right now.

our solar system could sooner or later eventually collide with other solar system(s)

Later perhaps. Much, much later. The nearest star is more than 4 light years away and we are not headed toward it. Not much to worry about there.