Romney, Obama, and even the incorruptible Ron Paul has leveraged with third party sources to raise outside funds using tax exempt super pacs and
personal donations to fund their campaigns. They all use celebrity personalities to endorse and help raise funds for them using outside sources and
investment ponzi schemes. There used to be a mainstream political discussion about if this was in fact legal or unconstitutional. In my personal
opinion it is unconstitutional!
However, setting aside the constitution, will new laws really stop politicians from raising money using third party sources? In Juan Williams book
Muzzled, which talks about his experience as a political commentator on both the very liberal NPR and very conservative Fox News. He got fired from
NPR saying after 9/11 he, like many Americans was suspicious when he saw muslims in airports. He has a chapter that talks about the limits of freedom
of speech and how the very far right and very far left are money fundraisers. Arianna Huffington sold her very liberal Huffington Post website to AOL
for $315 Million. The liberal media consists of most newspapers and most News Channels from the New York times to MSNBC. Conservatives are rarely
heard on those channels, and President Obama himself has refused to be interviewed by the talk show hosts at Fox News. With the exception of the fair
and balanced Bill O'reilly. Rush Limbaugh has a salary of $55 Million per year and the far right dominates AM radio, using his model.
So with the polarization of the left right paradigm which some on here says do not exist, is it any wonder to anybody, that these campaign fundraising
techniques are being used to contribute to the election? I say, someone is ignorant if they do not believe in this left/right debate going on in
America. You may not like it, but it exists. When it comes to politics, you have to be very careful about voicing your opinions and you have to remain
neutral at all times in public life. Consider, my personal experience of writing a pro-capitalist, pro-free market (which btw was started by Christian
Monks in the middle ages), paper in a Christianity class helmed by a secular democratic liberal who failed me for my beliefs. The class had very
little to do with Christianity, but his interpretation of what America should be, while showing YouTube clips of various republicans and laughing at
them, not allowing students to debate him on the issues. Even when those issues had very little to do with religion in the first place! But in his
defense, the Christianity class had more of a, "think about it," feeling and it wasn't really open to debates.
I personally find it extremely difficult to have political discussions about real issues. People, even on this site, influenced by the star and flag
value system have seemed to ban behind one candidate. When someone asks a practical question which is rare. They call those on the opposite side of
the debate a shill and an insider. They go on to say that we should talk about real issues, and not ask stupid questions, when in fact the very
questions raised were real! Just because you consider yourself not part of the left/right debate. You are still contributing to the polarization on
the internet and not seriously considering other people's world views. This happens exactly the same way in the MSM.
I have had many great discussions with very far left liberals on this site, being a centrist republican, I can see all sides of the issues and it is
my right as an American citizen to ask practical questions, to get their minds to at least, "think about it." As I tolerated in that religious
classroom, back in college.
To be frank, most people here on ATS are conspiracy nutjob crybabies, spreading useless rhetoric about the NWO or Ron Paul and his plans to save
America! If you question their information, they are instantly suspicious of you. What happened? Did ATS become so influenced by the star and flag
system that people stopped having real political discussions? Is it the political polarization affect which apparently, does not exist on ATS, but is
effecting every single American? When did it become the norm, to call people trolls if they asked questions, which opposed your world view?
The same can be said for Mainstream America (and no it's ridiculous to even suggest ATS represents the majority of Americans after all Jarrod Lee
Laughner was once a member) as Juan Williams points out in his book, we have lost the ability to have a rational debate here in America. We have seen
this countless times from Laughner himself who the left demonized the right by saying he was influenced by right wing propaganda. Juan Williams was
effectively Muzzled by NPR for saying what was on his mind. And Sarah Palin who raised concerns about Obama's HealthCare plan effectively being death
camps. I have not heard of one person dying because they were refused ObamaCare. I have heard how expensive it is to this country at a time, we cannot
afford it. And insurance companies themselves, are usually the ones, that turn people away due to loopholes. I believe we need a simple National
HealthCare Plan. Rush Limbaugh has been alienated as well, for saying that since Sandra Fluke wanted the government to pay her $3000 in birth control
bills, that she was a slut! Seriously, I think that's a little excessive on Ms. Fluke's part. And yet, because Limbaugh is seen as a crazy right wing
nut job, he is the one that gets bashed. However, those on the right will now be calling me a democrat.
However, I have made various posts on this site bashing the liberal media and government over reach programs.But just because I can see the need for
government agencies, or a need for someone not so far right as Ron Paul or Sarah Palin as President, I am called a democrat. Why? Why cannot I not
agree with my liberal friends on certain issues? You do no good calling me a democrat, because I agree with someone else. Instead of yelling at me for
questioning your world view, why not answer my questions?
So I want to ask ATS members this very simple question. What are the real issues? Is it the NWO? Government corruption? Political fundraising? Ron
Paul? Police brutality (which has become ironically silenced after OWS)? The UN? The Financial situation?
If you answered yes to all these questions and want to debate them, then by all means lets debate facts and not sensational conspiracy theories based
on assumptions, such as the real Ron Paul delegate count, or all white cops are evil racist pigs! These are just some of the stories I have heard on
ATS, and when I or someone else tries to bring balance to the topic at hand, we get yelled at. Why? What's so bad about hearing others opinions,
especially when that person might have the right facts for you to look at.
I came to ATS looking for answers, and I became a skeptic. But I now understand why I question everything the government and corporations do. I now
understand why I question seemingly amazing political candidates. There is no gold at the end of the rainbow...Sorry to burst your bubble. So please
let's get back to the rational debates that existed here before the polarization of politics brainwashed all of ATS!
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