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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Jordan River
Within the known universe alone, there are somewhere between 200,000 TRILLION - 20 Million Trillion life-sustaining, habitable worlds (or more) as a rough estimate, based on 1,000,000 to 100,000,000 in each galaxy ave, with 200 Billion Galaxies (approx). Recent estimates peg the number in the Milky Way alone to exceed 1 Billion (add one more zero). If you then took this number, halved it, and then took just one percent of one percent for Earth-like worlds (a very VERY low, conservative estimate) - we'd still be left with 10 - 1000 TRILLION earth-like worlds - I'm going to do a thread on this, examining the best of everything now known about solar systems, relative ave size of Milky Way, etc. to better show this and the simple math supporting it since we're dealing with mutlipliers of 10 and thus only need to count and add up zeros.
So only one percent of one percent of half of a conservative estimate of life-sustaining, habitable worlds in the universe, is:
10-1000 TRILLION.
Sp no need for multi-worlds or parallel universes to prove other worlds not unlike our own.
edit on 24-4-2012 by NewAgeMan because: typo
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Jordan River
Obviously the possibilities are endless. This alone flys in trhe face of any one who doubts scriptures account of a Heavenly Father, Heaven and Hell, creation, and it's explanation for our existence. Not being the highest form of existence.
New age man
For me your post simply adds morte possibilities.
SnFedit on 24-4-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NewerBeing
My collective knowledge:
Religion:
Heaven and hell exists, but you have to prepare your mind for it.
Universe:
We all have souls and our souls can travel anywhere in the universe but we have to prepare our minds for the journey.
Basically what I am trying to say is, if you believe in religion you will go to that place in the universe where there is a heaven and hell and send yourself there. If we don't believe in religion then we won't trap ourselves for an inevitable fate.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Jordan River
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Jordan River
Poor guy you really want this heaven thing to be true huh?
I just hope you give up your manufactured beliefs before its taken away from you.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Jordan River
Are you saying one of these other, 'higher' universes is Heaven?
The idea of a hierarchy of realities is very old. The Gnostics believed in it, and constructed an abstruse structure of theory and description to support their belief. In its obscurity and complexity, this body of thought bore some slight similarity to theoretical physics, though the resemblance pretty much ended there. Of course, Gnosticism is moribund and nearly forgotten now, but I urge you to investigate it. You may find in it an intellectual structure more suited to your ideas than those of science, which in my educated opinion offer no support for them whatsoever.
Then again, the Gnostics' idea that God is really the Devil may put you off. It shouldn't, though. For most of the Bible, God easily outdoes the Devil at being devilish.