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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by jdub297
Get rid of the mocking title (really?) and you might just have an interesting thread.
Why would someone view this as bad news in the first place?
Why would someone view this as bad news in the first place?
You know more about polar bears then a professor of biology who has been studying them for years?
Are you really that arrogant or are you actually this stupid?
I'm not insulting you. This is an actual honest question.
Because i cannot for the life of me believe that anyone would hold onto their worldview so strongly as to be this obtuse.
Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by jdub297
Fact 1) Polar bear counts appear to be on the rise.
Why? Is it because there are more polar bears or is it because polar bears are forced to find food near human habitation. If you have your worldview (There's that word again) then you will say it's the former. If you have mine you will say it's the later. I'm not willing to go count them myself.. so I don't know the reason but if I'm balanced and objective I'd would say either are possible.
Fact 2) Female polar bears weight has been declining steadily in the last 30 years. Because of less time spent on the ice bears are not getting enough to eat and this could jeopardize the bears ability to reproduce.
Fact 3) According to Derocher, the small number of cubs surveyed supports point number 2
Fact 4) According to PBI the best indicator of polar bear health is weight.
Fact 5)The Canadian Government has a vested interest in making the polar bear population appear healthy.
Fact 6) The Nunavut Government has a commercial interest in making the polar bear population seem healthy.
If you want to use one statistic to prove your point then that's fine. Polar bear counts have risen. On the surface this seems to be good news for the bears, but taken in context, the bigger picture tells a different story.
I'm sorry for my tone earlier. I tried to edit my message but ATS wouldn't let me.
Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by jdub297
I presented facts to support my position. You've presented rhetoric.
You're entitled to your opinion but it is just an opinion and, despite your protestations to the contrary, not a very informed one at that.
Originally posted by Buddha1098
1000 individuals counted vs 600 estimated. Yup sounds like the population is THRIVING...
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
The OP comes off as a flame-baiting troll with that thread title.
Why do people flag this crap?
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
No. The Gov wants you to think it is a fact, but it is not. Global warming is an unproven theory. Some graphs from NASA sattelite, buried by the Government, shows Earth cooling. CO2, in some case, went up while Earth was cooling. That Global Warming is a marketing scam.
A couple questions
1) Glaciers and ice shelfs are retreating and breaking up which is a fact, does this not prove global warming?
2) Have you seen or can you link something that actually shows these images or the info the gov has suppressed?
3) Ive heard that when the ice sheets do melt the water somehow affects currents which will lead to a cooling, is there any truth to this?
Cheers
P.s not being a smart ass I genuinely dont know