“National Def. Preparedness” Exec. Order OKs Conscripts, Nationalization of Private Industry, page 1


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Topic started on 17-3-2012 @ 07:36 AM by jdub297
Read It And Weep!
National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order

On Friday, March 16, Barack Obama signed the “National Defense Resources Preparedness” Executive Order, authorizing his administration to begin "under both emergency and non-emergency conditions," ... " to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation," and to retain other individuals and organizations with specialized knowledge or abilities, or otherwise important to the adminstration.

Even more worrisome, Sec. 308 of the E.O. authorizes administration officials to
" procure and install ... equipment, facilities, processes, or improvements to plants, factories, and other industrial facilities ... owned by owned by private persons.

If this is not blanket aithority to nationalize industry, then, what is?
If it is; why now?
Why the need to conscript people and organizations without compensation?

As for food supplies and production, the Exec. Order authorizes the Sec. of Agriculture to take the same steps with regard to "food resources."

Ditto for the Secretaries of Energy, Labor, Transportation; in fact, all cabinet and Homeland Security officials, are likewise authorized to act in such fashion at their discretion.

Again, why now?

jw
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reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 07:54 AM by OldCorp
reply to post by jdub297


Why in the world are you putting this in such a pretty package? "Nationalizing industry?" Let's call a spade a spade shall we? This is SLAVERY!

Ironic that it was signed by a black man. Can the brainwashed Left, the cult of Barry Obama see it yet? You've been LIED TOO.

He's not leaving us much choice is he?
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reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:03 AM by RealSpoke
Here's the sections of the document the OP is talking about.


Sec. 502. Consultants. The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section may not be redelegated.



Sec. 308. Government-Owned Equipment. The head of each agency engaged in procurement for the national defense is delegated the authority of the President under section 303(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2093(e), to:

(a) procure and install additional equipment, facilities, processes, or improvements to plants, factories, and other industrial facilities owned by the Federal Government and to procure and install Government owned equipment in plants, factories, or other industrial facilities owned by private persons;

(b) provide for the modification or expansion of privately owned facilities, including the modification or improvement of production processes, when taking actions under sections 301, 302, or 303 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2091, 2092, 2093; and

(c) sell or otherwise transfer equipment owned by the Federal Government and installed under section 303(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2093(e), to the owners of such plants, factories, or other industrial facilities.


Still creepy regardless if it is old or new.


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reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:04 AM by Blackmarketeer
Ummm probably because it reads like every other National Defense Preparedness Executive Order signed by previous presidents? A routine government matter that is being used to stir FUD because Obama is - how shall we say? Different than his predecessors? Is it his race? Skin color? His religion?

An example from 1988;
National Archives Executive Order 12656--Assignment of emergency preparedness responsibilities

I hate to break it to you, but governments plan for all contingencies. I'd hate to see your reaction to some of the defense authorizations from the Cold War signed by JFK, Ike, or Nixon, some of those were downright scary.

You'll see, if you took the time to compare it to previous such orders, how each Secretary has been charged with ensuring the non-disruption of vital services during emergencies, from procuring funds, to keeping the private sector in operation, and yes, even to nationalizing certain private sector operations to keep them functioning so as to prevent a breakdown in society.

The one signed in 1994 also authorizes the use of government funding/equipment in improving privately-owned facilities.

Sec. 307. Government-owned Equipment. An agency head is authorized, pursuant to section 303(e) of the Act, to install additional equipment, facilities, processes, or improvements to facilities owned by the government and to install government-owned equipment in industrial facilities owned by private persons. source


Just the section title changed in the newest bill.

That's been written into every one of these National Defense Orders going all the way back to the early FEMA and it predecessor days of the Office of Civilian Defense, etc.

Nice try at demonizing Obama for doing the exact same thing all his predecessors have done though. Next time try denying your inner ignorance.


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:14 AM by jdub297
Originally posted by OldCorp
reply to post by jdub297


Why in the world are you putting this in such a pretty package? "Nationalizing industry?" Let's call a spade a spade shall we? This is SLAVERY!
...
He's not leaving us much choice is he?


On aggregator sites, like fre republic, this is the exact sentiment of dozens of commentors.

It is getting to the point that there is nothing he will not try to do to impose his "transformation" before November, and it's over.

jw


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:17 AM by jdub297
reply to post by RealSpoke


Here's the second section of the bill the OP is talking about. It's confusing to understand it shortened.


Unfortunately, it is not a "Bill."
It is an Executive Order, and in full force and effect upon Obama's signature, March 16, 2012.
This could be one of those "red letter days" that people will talk about in the future.

Funny thing, not a peep in the MSM.
Surprised?

jw


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:21 AM by jdub297
reply to post by lonegurkha


The people who are comfortable with the seizure of their freedoms will of course not see this for what it truely is. An excutive order doesn't get voted on like a bill. It simply is.


"The people who are comfortable" et c., has to include the MSM and "progressives," who've not said a word about this self-grant of power (i.e., "power grab") by an administration that is seeing its grip on America's throat slipping.

When the people won't go along, you just issue yourself the authority to make them!

jw


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:24 AM by jdub297
reply to post by harlot7

This basically says, if they want our stuff...they can take it. If they want us....they can take us. This is pure draft material.


Do you mean , like, Martial Law?"

The part that says "emergency or non-emergency" pretty much sums it up to whenever and for whatever Obama or any one of his minions feel it is "time."



reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:24 AM by RealSpoke
reply to post by jdub297


Yeah I know I realized that after I said it. The post below my previous says why there is no peep about it in the MSM. It's also why I didn't form a concrete conclusion before reading the whole thing/researching it further. It's nothing new.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:33 AM by shushu
reply to post by harlot7


It's called commandeering. Something I've been thinking about doing with a neighbor's EXTRA vehicle to run errands.


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:37 AM by Blackmarketeer
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Of course it REVOKES those previous orders!

You can't have previous orders conflicting with NEW orders. The languages in this new order is virtually identical with the order issued in 1994 and 1988.

Again here is the 1994 E.O.
Executive Orders And Laws relating to National Emergencies Laws
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12919
NATIONAL DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS

READ THOUGH it and tell me, how is the one Obama signed AT ALL different from the one signed back in 1994?

All you are doing is using this as another sad attempt to smear Obama for upholding his office. If this executive order was so offensive to you, why didn't you demonize Bush for signing the same thing back in 1988 or Clinton for it in 1994? Did you even KNOW they had signed these orders, and that this 2012 version was a virtual copy of those previous orders? The whole idea of "why does it revoke those orders" is laughable - it supersedes those orders. The one signed in 1994 revokes the one signed in 1988. (read section "Sec. 904. Effect on other Orders" in the 1994 order.)


reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:42 AM by lonegurkha
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Thomas Jefferson said,"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."

He also said,"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."

How about this one,"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for."

I think that he was on to something here. It's exactly what we are seeing here. Jefferson foresaw this seizure of power by the government. He spoke about it many times. Check this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 17-3-2012 @ 08:47 AM by khimbar
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by jdub297


Of course it REVOKES those previous orders!

You can't have previous orders conflicting with NEW orders. The languages in this new order is virtually identical with the order issued in 1994 and 1988.

Again here is the 1994 E.O.
Executive Orders And Laws relating to National Emergencies Laws
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12919
NATIONAL DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS

READ THOUGH it and tell me, how is the one Obama signed AT ALL different from the one signed back in 1994?

All you are doing is using this as another sad attempt to smear Obama for upholding his office. If this executive order was so offensive to you, why didn't you demonize Bush for signing the same thing back in 1988 or Clinton for it in 1994? Did you even KNOW they had signed these orders, and that this 2012 version was a virtual copy of those previous orders? The whole idea of "why does it revoke those orders" is laughable - it supersedes those orders. The one signed in 1994 revokes the one signed in 1988. (read section "Sec. 904. Effect on other Orders" in the 1994 order.)


It's not half as exciting when you keep putting all these facts and truths in the way.
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