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Originally posted by constantwonder
Why is everyone so convinced this is "BS". This is a huge piece of physics that may not stand up to scrutiny. The research is ongoing and is trying to be duplicated.
After tightening the connection and then remeasuring the time it takes data to travel the length of the cable, researchers found that the data arrive 60 nanoseconds earlier than assumed, the website said. (More data will be needed to confirm this hypothesis, the site cautioned.)
First it was a satellite GPS timer system. Now it is cabling fault. What next?
Why is it so difficult to accept paradigm shift?....
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
No, Relativity is sort of a Scientific "False Flag" thing....
It's real purpose is not to explain science or reality, or physics.... it's to keep the public sector's scientific research completely dead-ended so that no really revolutionary ideas or technologies are ever discovered.
It's literally a Red Herring.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
First it was a satellite GPS timer system. Now it is cabling fault. What next?
Why is it so difficult to accept paradigm shift?....
Hahah wtf? You realize that relativity is something that can easily be tested at home, right?
And is something that every undergraduate physics lab tests? Measuring the speed of light, for example, is something very simple to do. I did it years ago as a student.
Measuring time dilation is easy, too. I believe CRTs have to account for it otherwise the electron beam will not be focused properly on the screen.
And the math is so easy I learned it in jr high
"I refuse to understand it or do experiments to confirm it."
Also, unless you mean the laws of physics are actually fish, it is not literally a red herring.
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by Moduli
Hahah wtf? You realize that relativity is something that can easily be tested at home, right?
Would you like to explain that one?
And is something that every undergraduate physics lab tests? Measuring the speed of light, for example, is something very simple to do. I did it years ago as a student.
Would you like to explain how you measured it?
Measuring time dilation is easy, too. I believe CRTs have to account for it otherwise the electron beam will not be focused properly on the screen.
you BELIEVE, eh?
Would you like to cite some studies?
And the math is so easy I learned it in jr high
Would you like to explain which junior high school taught advanced matrix transformations?
Wow... I can't believe that..... you just... I mean.... wow.
en.wikipedia.org...
Learn.
Yes. It can be easily tested at home.
Interferometry.
I also believe you need a dictionary.
I would like to cite the way a CRT works.
Advanced? There is no "advanced" matrix multiplication. There is just matrix multiplication. And I did learn that in jr. high pre-algebra classes.
However, what I was referring to was the hyperbolic geometry that defines special relativity, which is a simple extension of the kind of basic geometry many jr high students learn.
en.wiktionary.org...
Learn!
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Interferometry.
Would you like to use that in a sentence?
Or, perhaps.... I don't know... an actual explanation?
[...] magnetic [...] field [...]
So, would you like to explain where relativistic effects come into play?
en.wikipedia.org...
suck it.
Literally a Red herring Fallacy.
As opposed to Not a Fallacy... Duh.
I used interferometry to measure the speed of light. If you don't understand those words then this discussion is not for you. It's like complaining that me saying "I measured distance with a ruler" is not explaining how I determined a distance.
Uhh, yeah, let me give this one a shot. Electromagnetism includes relativity. So it comes into play in the whole thing and the entire point of electromagnetism.
Spelling out components of matrices makes things less advanced, not more. Also you don't use the metric in special relativity, you use the line element. In other words the Pythagorean theorem in hyperbolic geometry. In other words, I learned it in jr high.
I have a degree in string theory.
Suck it.
Literally illiterate. How ironic!
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Interferometry is the measurement of interference of light waves.
Now, would you like to explain HOW you did this? Or are you just going to keep BARKING?
And that, was a FAIL.
You might as well state that measuring current through a wire needs to account for relativity....
en.wikipedia.org...
Oh, yeah.... time dilation is simple, eh?
Then go ahead and use your simple mathematics on the Electron gun from the CRT.
If only there was some obvious relationship between interference and wavelength, or wavelength and speed. Geeze, I guess this is an increasingly difficult puzzle that will take mankind centuries to figure out! It couldn't possibly be expressed in like one or two basic algebraic equations!
I did it by understanding what those words even mean. Now, would you like to spend a few minutes reading a physics book before you claim all of physics is wrong?
IT DOES! Amazing, I know. Because, you see, the place Maxwell's equations--the ones that include relativity--came from. Yeah, they came from understanding circuits.
Yes, it is!!! There is one basic algebraic equation there!!! Square roots, division, and powers are not complicated!!!
F = q ( E + Bxv)
Done! Simple math! A multiplication, a vector multiplication, an addition, and that's it! So simple I literally learned it in junior high!
Originally posted by Moduli
Hahah wtf? You realize that relativity is something that can easily be tested at home, right? And is something that every undergraduate physics lab tests? Measuring the speed of light, for example, is something very simple to do. I did it years ago as a student.
That's very deceptive.
There's a major difference between using professional lab equipment vs. testing it at home with a fork and a small flashlight.
Originally posted by EasyPleaseMe
Whilst I think relativity is relatively safe, the problem for me is reducing transmission time by 60ns by tightening an optical connector. The signal would travel approx 12m in 60ns. Something isn't right somewhere with this story. And it is usually the journalist that isn't right.
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by Moduli
IS that all you got? Really?
You can't simply explain what you are talking about?
You really DON'T know what you are talking about, do you?
Would you like to explain WHY current flowing through a wire needs to account for relativity?
And in what way?
Yes, it is!!! There is one basic algebraic equation there!!! Square roots, division, and powers are not complicated!!!
Oh... you are only messing with 2 dimensions, aren't you?
That explains it...
F = q ( E + Bxv)
Done! Simple math! A multiplication, a vector multiplication, an addition, and that's it! So simple I literally learned it in junior high!
Now, now.... you must explain to the rest of the class how that effects the electrons flowing from the filament to the anode.....