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reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 11:21 PM by usmc0311
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Thank you very much. I'm gonna write that one down for future use.

Thanks.



reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 11:48 PM by TDawgRex
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As a CBRNE trained NCO, I have always hooped and hollered (and ordered) Troops who were trophy hunting away from targets that I thought were targeted by DU rounds. Many didn't listen and are now paying the price because they snuck off and did it anyways.

I even briefed the Mechs on the dangers of burned out M1 Tanks.

All to often, I heard, "I'm just doing my job."

To which my reply was, "Doing your job now, without the proper precautions, can kill you later in lfe."


reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 11:54 PM by usmc0311
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I was in Fallujah In 2005/2005 and we just couldn't get away from the stuff. Not to mention all the other crap we were exposed to. That city was disgusting and after the battle it was ust heinous. It's sad that this stuff is happening.


reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:01 AM by TDawgRex
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I had a team there as well. So far, they seem to healthy. And are currently deployed...again. Those days are over for me now as I am retired, unless of course, they recall me.

Inshallah.

Crap! I hate that phrase!

Plus most combat troops are young and think they are invincible. I'm amazed at how even first contact still does not affect that thought line.
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reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:07 AM by ANOK
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Not all GWI is caused by DU, I wasn't even on land so nowhere near the stuff.

The vaccines are now, unofficially, considered the major cause of GWI. People who had the vaccine after the war are also showing symptoms.


reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:14 AM by usmc0311
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Thanks for the link to the VA info. Alot of good stuff on there. I hope that things will get better for us but somehow I don't see that happening.


reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:15 AM by TDawgRex
Originally posted by ANOK
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Not all GWI is caused by DU, I wasn't even on land so nowhere near the stuff.

The vaccines are now, unofficially, considered the major cause of GWI. People who had the vaccine after the war are also showing symptoms.


I understand that. However, with the exception of the GG shot, I maneged to avoid the rest of the shots. I was in the Eighty Duece at the time and spent a lot of time at Pope prior to the official alert.

I never took the PB tabs either...so far, I seem to be fairly healthy, with the exception of getting older and the various pain that entails.

I guess I was a conspiracy theorist way back when. I just didn't trust them.
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reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:28 AM by ANOK
Originally posted by usmc0311
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Thanks for the link to the VA info. Alot of good stuff on there. I hope that things will get better for us but somehow I don't see that happening.


Yeah, not holding my breath. But it is nice to know we haven't been completely forgotten.

This might be worth checking into (pun intended lol)...

War Related Illness and Injury Study Center (WRIISC)


reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:39 AM by TDawgRex
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The problem with the VA is that they are ...oh...so...slow.

My problem nowadays are my joints. Lots of aches and pain. The VA explains it away as getting older. Which is valid.

We see the same with Professional sports players. Of course they get paid more.

But for thirty years of my life, I pushed myself at a 17-20 year old age level, it wasn't asked of me, it was required. Now it is starting to take it's toll. I accepted that by being in my chosen profession.

I like to think of myself as fairly healthy, but the tuth be told, I am starting to wonder.



reply posted on 8-2-2012 @ 12:52 AM by TDawgRex
Originally posted by ANOK
Originally posted by TDawgRex
I understand that. However, with the exception of the GG shot, I maneged to avoid the rest of the shots. I was in the Eighty Duece at the time and spent a lot of time at Pope prior to the official alert.

I never took the PB tabs either...so far, I seem to be fairly healthy, with the exception of getting older and the various pain that entails.

I guess I was a conspiracy theorist way back when. I just didn't trust them.


OK sorry no probs bro. Funny, well not so funny anymore my memory is getting worse, but I don't remember what shots I actually got, and my medical record from my complete service is missing, along with many other GW vets. So technically even though I have been diagnosed, because I have symptoms they can find no cause for, I am only guessing it's the vaccine because there is no alternative. It could have been the Navy chow for all I know lol. I do know that where I was stationed was close to a major distribution point for the vaccine, and I know we got shots before we deployed. But then that baked tuna & noodles could be pretty brutal...


In the army I hated Chicken for ten years.

But in a sense, I was lucky, I was a Air Force brat and my Dad told me to always maintain my own personnal copy of my admin and nedical files. (He learned the hard way when his records was a fire in St. Louis.

I listened to him and have passed on that wisdom to every Soldier I have ever met.

It has paided off for me...though not without bumps in the road.

There are always those who say, "Prove it."

At which point, I have my documentation. That is key.
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 12:10 AM by TDawgRex
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Though your symptoms are proof enough, Valuable time may have been lost during the diagnoses. I feel for ya.

If anything, now that I am retired I continue the mission of educating those who serve. Whether in a bar, church or grocery store.

What you don't know, may very well kill you.
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reply posted on 16-2-2012 @ 06:27 PM by usmc0311
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Thanks for the link. Hopefully more information will arise from the many studies happening right now.
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