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Israel: Iran's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:07 AM
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Ok this is getting ridiculous.If Iran was making a bomb the first time i heard about it(many many years ago),they should have at least 20 bombs by now.Also Israel has to understand that all this "cry wolf" game they play,it will only be against them,IF or when Iran make the bomb for real.Noone will believe them(not that anyone believes them now
).I think Iran uses Israeli propaganda for their benefit.

Anyway, something funny that i thought while reading the article:If USA is not convinced to attack Iran,the next headline will say:
Iran's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach Mars.Martians beware....



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by steaming
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www.wnd.com...
Just visited the extinctionprotocol 2012 website and found the above. Please read and seriously consider.

Looks as though the inevitable is on the table for within the WND it explains how an EMP - said previously to be a threat from Coronal Mass Explosions of he Sun etc. are part and parcel of the now oncoming WW3.

Read and see how serious it all sounds to you.


I read this article yesterday. Thanks for providing a link. I think most people spend too much time focusing on the delivery system of a nuclear weapon -on U.S. soil- but the most devastating point people seem to miss is that all they need to do is detonate a nuclear warhead in the atmosphere above the U.S. creating an EMP and sending us, as the article you linked to says, "...back to the eighteenth century." I believe that is the true goal.
Remember when the Iranians had the failed rocket launches, well they seem like less of a failure when your goal is an EMP.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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no no no.

Iran has not invaded anyone in 200 years that has not attacked them. They want to build up their economy and reduce their dependence on Europe and the USA. People try and over think the simple reality. If they wanted to kill all Jews they would kill the Jews living in their country.

If they wanted to attack the USA they would just try and get Russia to do it the way Israel trys to get America to fight their wars.

EMP no, they will just wait for us to go bankrupt and not be able to turn the lights on.
If you listen to their leaders they keep saying there is no need to attack, the system will collapse on its own.

So no. Iran is laughing at the "free" world. lol
not trying to end the world. those bandits, always trying to use diabolical plots to end the world. where is captain america?


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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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NOBODY has a missile thall fly ten thousand miles yet.....Debka is rabid as usual.......
The Iranis have been just short of one year away from a bomb for ten years now......



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Zionists attempting to scare fox news viewers into pushing the red button again. What a surprise. Is it time to defund these warmongers yet?!



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Hellas
This has been posted I guess

www.abovetopsecret.com...


the technology of missiles .. they already have that
but the tech for a nuclear weapons ..this is completely new to me
i was quite surprise by this very worrying article

pure false propaganda .. but still worrying right at this time .. april is very close


They already have the missiles .?.... from where? when ? they have DEFENSIVE miles with a range of 3 or 4 hundred miles, thats a long way short of an ICBM (Inter Continental Ballistic MIssile).
....and where have they suddenly got the fissile material from ? what they "refine" is USELESS for a nuclear bomb, 20% refined uranium will NOT make a nuclear bomb.

Tie a few watches with luminous dials to a firework and fire it.... its a nuclear (radiation from the watches) and a missile

stop believing this absolute NONSENSE, if Israel wants to invade Iran let them...and let THEM take the consequences.By now the world (and US in particular) should see through this continual stream of crap.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Iran suffers from a case of ongoing serendipitous setbacks. Terrible. Faulty components, bad wiring, accidental explosions, bad code.

Their bad luck is almost of God Smiting proportions.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
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Iran suffers from a case of ongoing serendipitous setbacks. Terrible. Faulty components, bad wiring, accidental explosions, bad code.

Their bad luck is almost of God Smiting proportions.




the question is

A) how how many were real accidents like CNN FOX says

B) how many were signed by mossad and CIA involment


B : more then 100% ?

coincidences like dont happen like miracle
they will always denied it .. but Iran is not dump
why showing so much restrain ?

pretty sure China and Russia told them to back off for the moment
and wait until the US and Israel do the mistake to attack the first
then it will be WW3

US and Israel know that .. thats why no strikes happened yet
and they are still pushing Iran close the SOH
because there is little chance that this time the nuclear weapons reason
many countries in the world will not swallow it this time



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Shooting down any Iranian ICBM or any other Iranian missle or aircraft with the current Fifth Fleet in the area which carries many converted SM-3's would be easy. The Iranian Airforce knows this and would have a hardtime convincingpilots to even fly missions against such weaponry. Split Infinity


Ballistic missiles are not faulty satellites. Part of the nuclear launch strategy is all about launching your missiles in such a way that they would not be shot down; otherwise, what would be the point of launching them?



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Israel: Iran's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US


debka.com

Iran has completed the development of a nuclear weapon and awaits nothing more than a sign from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to start assembling its first nuclear bomb, said Israeli Military Intelligence Chief Major General Aviv Kochavi on Thursday, February 2. Assembling a bomb would take up to a year
(visit the link for the full news article)



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haven't they been saying that for what, like 10 years or more? lulz



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Shooting down any Iranian ICBM or any other Iranian missle or aircraft with the current Fifth Fleet in the area which carries many converted SM-3's would be easy. The Iranian Airforce knows this and would have a hardtime convincingpilots to even fly missions against such weaponry. Split Infinity


Ballistic missiles are not faulty satellites. Part of the nuclear launch strategy is all about launching your missiles in such a way that they would not be shot down; otherwise, what would be the point of launching them?

It is true that ICBM's have the ability to launch counter measures....but all ICBM's reach a point where they leave the upper atmosphere....they then re-enter the atmosphere. The time in between these two events is when you would want to either strike them with an ABM or use a Laser to destroy the warheads as this would prevent poisoning of the atmosphere.

It is a hell of alot easier to destroy a ICBM coming in at a target say over the Norther Polar icecap....than to blow up a Satelitte traveling at a trajectory that has it crossing an entire section of the Space and Sky in ORBIT as with the other missle....we have it coming in right at us. If we are using the FEL....we can cover entire regions of upper space above possible targets. Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Israel: Iran's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

Iran: Israel's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

USA: Iraq's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

China: North Korea's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

North Korea: China's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

Pakistan: India's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

Afghanistan: Pakistan's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US

Blah Blah: Blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah


Ad infinitum.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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I agree with your post, starred.

My only problem is ...Why do they all reach the US

Canada is big, let afew go there.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
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I agree with your post, starred.

My only problem is ...Why do they all reach the US

Canada is big, let afew go there.



Because it wouldn't make for great "news" headlines. Everything must be aimed at the US in order for people to stand up and take notice. The propaganda just wouldn't work otherwise.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Shooting down any Iranian ICBM or any other Iranian missle or aircraft with the current Fifth Fleet in the area which carries many converted SM-3's would be easy. The Iranian Airforce knows this and would have a hardtime convincingpilots to even fly missions against such weaponry. Split Infinity


Ballistic missiles are not faulty satellites. Part of the nuclear launch strategy is all about launching your missiles in such a way that they would not be shot down; otherwise, what would be the point of launching them?

It is true that ICBM's have the ability to launch counter measures....but all ICBM's reach a point where they leave the upper atmosphere....they then re-enter the atmosphere. The time in between these two events is when you would want to either strike them with an ABM or use a Laser to destroy the warheads as this would prevent poisoning of the atmosphere.

It is a hell of alot easier to destroy a ICBM coming in at a target say over the Norther Polar icecap....than to blow up a Satelitte traveling at a trajectory that has it crossing an entire section of the Space and Sky in ORBIT as with the other missle....we have it coming in right at us. If we are using the FEL....we can cover entire regions of upper space above possible targets. Split Infinity


For one, I seriously doubt any country's capability of destroying a real ICBM attack at any stage. Countermeasures are one thing; so are deployment strategies, intelligence, confusion tactics, etc etc. Lasers and ASAT missiles? Just remember that when those are tested, they are fired at test targets. Attacking a real target of a foreign military development is a different story.

Secondly, any ICBM that will be aiming for the US will have already entered space and disengaged its MIRVs before its even over American territory. This means that the Americans probably wouldn't get the chance to counter them until the MIRVs are falling onto the targets. I would like to see a laser weapon take out a MIRV in freefall, because I doubt that a puny laser would be able to do much more than what the friction from re-entry is already doing.

Assuming that the US, or any country, does have effective anti-ICBM technology, they need to have it in a relatively good position to use it when the time comes or the whole strategy is useless. They also need enough equipment deployed to deal with the whole threat- how much would that be if there's 20+ ICBMs with 100+ MIRVs coming at the US from multiple directions? Enough for us to already know of a real anti-ICBM capacity, or only to fantasize about how invincible US technology is?



Two0Sides
Canada is big, let afew go there.


haha, as long as it's not on the Pacific side



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Dimitri...you have made some good points. One of them being that once an ICBM has seperated and it's MIRVS are now incoming...you now have more targets and they are reentering atmosphere. The current U.S. ABM system is a converted older Antiaircraft Missles that have had their solid fuel changed with another solid fuel that burns much longer and gives them a much greater speed and range. Add to this Super Computing power and advanced radar and you get a highly accurate ABM.

The real Power and Capability comes from the new Free Electron Laser...of which every U.S. Carrier as well as Ageis Class Cruiser will have installed...a nuclear version. Two Nuclear Powered Free Electron Lasers have been land located with one in Alaska and another in Canada. This type of Laser is something you should read about as it is not effected by atmospheric conditions and as Discover Magazine has said...A Nuclear Version of the Laser can burn a hole through 1000 feet of solid steel in seconds. That is alot of power and capability. Combine this Laser with Super Computers and a Mirrored SAT system and you can vaporize anything on or around Planet Earth. This is not SCI-FI...it is NOW and once these have been installed on Naval Platforms...they will be able to track as many targets as can be thrown at a Carrier Battle Group as well as the implications of Wide Beam targeting of land sites. Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Whether the information is true or not, the one giving it out, far from advocating an attack on Iran, is attempting to avoid an attack against Iran, either US or Israeli.

There is absolutely no way the US will launch an attack against Iran if the US public believes there is a non-zero probability of a successful retaliation by Iran and involving nukes that can reach US. So, far from using that as an excuse for an attack, any US administration will be forced to find excuses to avoid it. In fact, whether this information is true or not, it may serve as a powerful excuse to not attack Iran.

Those calling it a lie, if they understand the consequences at all, are those hoping, either openly or secretly, for Iran to be to be attacked.
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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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That is another case for to prove the ignorance of communism and to show what a our capcommunist state
government is up to. Our bandaide on gunshot wound allied governments want be doing anything
as usual.



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