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Obama's College Classmate Speaks Out!!!!

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by geemony
reply to post by NuminousCosmos
 


Name one yourself that has incorporated socialism and capitalism together and has provided a high standard of living for all of its citizens? Not one socialistic form of government has ever become successful....

Not one government which creates massive forms of entitlement programs has ever made it sustainable.

UTOPIA is a sham, it doesn't exist period


BOOM!

Norway has extensive reserves of petroleum, natural gas, minerals, lumber, seafood, fresh water, and hydropower. On a per-capita basis, it is the world's largest producer of oil and natural gas outside the Middle East, and the petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of the country's gross domestic product.The country maintains a Nordic welfare model with universal health care, subsidized higher education, and a comprehensive social security system. From 2001 to 2006, and then again from 2009 through 2011, Norway has had the highest human development index ranking in the world.

Capitalist and socialist? What? I didn't hear what you said over the awesomeness of Norway.




posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Boom... id don't think so.... Research Socialism and what it means....

Norway is a unitary constitutional monarchy. Hence constitution and monarchy, need I give the definition of both terms?

it is obvious..... Norway has the resources available to provide certain aspects of life for its people. And from research it doesn't look like they are as corrupted as the USA has become.

Anyway ill just give a bit of Norway's take on how they govern its people. You might recognize their Governmental system as one you have heard about before.

"According to the Constitution of Norway, which was adopted on 16 May 1814[51] and inspired by the United States Declaration of Independence and French Revolution of 1776 and 1789, respectively, Norway is a unitary constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government, wherein the King of Norway is the head of state and the Prime Minister is the head of government. Power is separated between the legislative, executive and judicial branches of government, as defined by the Constitution, which serves as the country's supreme legal document".

How bout that............... Norway adopted its form of government from the USA and France back in the day. WOW figure that.........

Nice try though



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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I hate "Fruit Loops"!

Just sayin'



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Perhaps you didn't understand. I said the Capitalism and Socialism could work together to benefit the people. You said that no country on Earth has ever successfully done this. I provided information to the effect that at least one does exist.

The Constitution only guarantees liberty, freedom of speech, the right to bear arms etc. It does not guarantee a social safety net- universal healthcare, or free education. That is something people had to work and fight for.

While admirable, other countries basing their constitutions on ours does not mean that ours offers the same social concerns.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by geemony
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
 


Understood however; I don't care if snopes says its real or not. I didn't even see the snopes ack when I read it. I can see with my own eyes and I am educated enough not to blindly follow someone over the cliff. Unlike a very many of my fellow citizens.

Look it up..... only half of the population works and pays taxes. The other half live off the half that pays for their way. They have become slaves to the system and have become a lazy part of our society. They state why should I work if I don't have to....the government will send me a check...... Something is very wrong with that mentality. Redistribution of wealth will have only one effect. It will become unsustainable and the USA will become an afterthought. Exactly what the liberal communist in this country want!!!!!

But make no mistake they themselves will be paid and the working man will be under the lash, riding those trains to the reeducation camps.



You tell me you can think for yourself and then you go into a tirade of GOP TV talking points. Poor people are not the ones bankrupting america. I'll give you a short list: The federal reserve, foreign military and economic aid, NOT having universal healthcare, tax breaks on companies that in turn outsource most of their jobs overseas...jobs that these so-called lazy liberals could and used to hold. Go to www.usgovernmentspending.com...

This liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat, middle-class vs poor crap is all a sham to keep us divided, so we won't see where the real blame belongs. Most americans are a job away from being poor themselves. Poor people don't control interest rates or give foreign countries bailouts. They have no fault in diminishing the value of the dollar.

This, "every man for himself" and "us versus them", reasoning is what got us here. This is the exact same tone Hitler took against the jews in nazi germany. I apologize if I am coming off offensive, but turn the TV off, brother....and follow the money.

Their IS an elite group of trillionaires that control our money and now they control all the power. They couldn't care less what party you belong to, trust me. Check out Charlotte Iserbyte's, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. She has a book as well as interviews on youtube.

Again, turn the TV off. Politicians use the trick of repeating the same lies over and over until you think it's true. Don't forget what made this country so badass back in the day...remember what the statue of liberty says:

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

Now before you reply, do some research. Look up Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg, Carnegie, the fed reserve and what the founding fathers thought of a central bank for starters. If you still want to blame your unfortunate poor brothers and sisters after that, have at it.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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Listen, this has nothing to do with what you are talking about and I hold to my statement that Norway is not a socialist government. they have social programs yes however they PAY for them with their National resources. The US doesn't, Big government drains the top 50 percent to pay for the free loading bottom 50 percent. It is a FACT un disputed that more than 48 percent of the citizens of this country don't pay taxes..... I totally understand why the US is in the shape it is in. And its for no other reason then big government and its entitlement programs period and everything and everyone (politicians) that goes with that. However it always becomes an issue when it is brought up about the free loaders in this country being lazy and not carrying their own weight. I am tired of paying out the azz so some freeloader can sit in McPherson square in DC and tell me he deserves to be handed everything on a silver platter. Obama says fair share while he turns the screws on the very thing that made this country what it used to be.

The man is set on destroying this country from with-in and over loading it with debt so it will implode on itself. and if people don't see that, then they are the ones who get the county check and refuse to contribute one thing.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33

Originally posted by geemony
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
 


Understood however; I don't care if snopes says its real or not. I didn't even see the snopes ack when I read it. I can see with my own eyes and I am educated enough not to blindly follow someone over the cliff. Unlike a very many of my fellow citizens.

Look it up..... only half of the population works and pays taxes. The other half live off the half that pays for their way. They have become slaves to the system and have become a lazy part of our society. They state why should I work if I don't have to....the government will send me a check...... Something is very wrong with that mentality. Redistribution of wealth will have only one effect. It will become unsustainable and the USA will become an afterthought. Exactly what the liberal communist in this country want!!!!!

But make no mistake they themselves will be paid and the working man will be under the lash, riding those trains to the reeducation camps.



You tell me you can think for yourself and then you go into a tirade of GOP TV talking points. Poor people are not the ones bankrupting america. I'll give you a short list: The federal reserve, foreign military and economic aid, NOT having universal healthcare, tax breaks on companies that in turn outsource most of their jobs overseas...jobs that these so-called lazy liberals could and used to hold. Go to www.usgovernmentspending.com...




Man I understand what you are saying and I never said the poor are BR this country. I said the fact that 50 percent of the population has to pay for the other 50 percents entitlements is what is BR this country.


This liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat, middle-class vs poor crap is all a sham to keep us divided, so we won't see where the real blame belongs. Most americans are a job away from being poor themselves. Poor people don't control interest rates or give foreign countries bailouts. They have no fault in diminishing the value of the dollar.




I do this because I am tired of conservative's backing down and letting the liberals do all the name calling and dishonest reporting, and useing the shill main stream media to report only what they want the people to hear and see.


This, "every man for himself" and "us versus them", reasoning is what got us here. This is the exact same tone Hitler took against the jews in nazi germany. I apologize if I am coming off offensive, but turn the TV off, brother....and follow the money.




Well it is every man for himself at this point. the vary notion of individualism is being attacked in the Us right now collectiveism is being pushed on all of us.


Their IS an elite group of trillionaires that control our money and now they control all the power. They couldn't care less what party you belong to, trust me. Check out Charlotte Iserbyte's, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. She has a book as well as interviews on youtube.

Again, turn the TV off. Politicians use the trick of repeating the same lies over and over until you think it's true. Don't forget what made this country so badass back in the day...remember what the statue of liberty says:

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.


I believe in all of these statements my friend I am a patriot 100% however I am afraid if Obama isnt stopped a second civil war might just happen


Now before you reply, do some research. Look up Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg, Carnegie, the fed reserve and what the founding fathers thought of a central bank for starters. If you still want to blame your unfortunate poor brothers and sisters after that, have at it.



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