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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 09:58 PM by Nite_wing
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That is not PROOF as I mean it unless the welder posts here himself, but I thank you for your response. Perhaps it wil lead to more replies. Who knows? We might just get a whistleblower here.
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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 10:03 PM by kalamatas
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Right, never said it was proof. But really, I don't think you're going to find much hard PROOF unless you go looking your self. I just though I'd share a personal story from a personal credible source. Just something to add to the possibility of it's reality and the discussion.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 10:18 PM by Magnificient

12. Secret Government-Can anybody PROVE that the President of the United States (or any other advanced society) is unaware of higher authorities than the supreme leader of that country?
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President Carter tried to get info from the CIA and was told by Bush that the info was on a need-to-know basis and that being President did not constitute a need-to-know. When our President's movement within the government is limited because of a lack of security clearance, then I think we can say that our President is not head of the government.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 11:37 PM by JoshF
Originally posted by Nite_wing
1. FEMA Camps- Can anybody PROVE they exist for dissenters?

No, and nobody can really prove they exsist in the volume that are claimed. Some of the photos have turned out to be nothing more than amtrack repair stations and some have been of north korean labor camps

2. Boxcars with Chains-Can anybody PROVE they exist?

Some of them are doctored and some of them are just the bike racks
www.nationalcorridors.org...
But many conspiracy theorists have decided that the box car used for cars looks prisoney enough to make claims
www.flickr.com...@N00/2050238893/


3. American Troop exercises within major cities-Can anybody PROVE this has happened.

Yes, all the time in fact.
www.cityofboston.gov...
But military exercises have to be carried out somewhere. And it really is a double standard with conspiracy, if it is in the city they are planning to declare marshal law (but anyone who watched what happened durring katrina would know bad the government is at that) and if they do it in the middle of nowhere then they are doing it in secret.

4. Chemtrails-Can anybody PROVE what they really are?

Yes and no, if you mean can we prove that they are just contrails? Then yes. If you mean can we prove that they are really whatever they are said to be this week then no, and if you believe in that then you probably don't need proof of anything to believe.

5. The ability to shut down the internet completely-Can anybody PROVE this can be done?

Technically yes, it could be done but it is not realistic.

6. Helicopter low flyovers in major cities-Can anybody PROVE they were military helicopters?

Yes (link above about military exercises).

7. Deep Underground Military Bases-Can anybody PROVE they exist?


this was all a joke that was taken serriously. David Icke bet Phill Schnider that he could get people to talk about believing in DUMB (deep underground mili... you get it). Not really, but no we cannot prove them nor can we prove Cowboy Phil and is shootout at the Dumb Corral.

8. Bilderbergs-Can anybody PROVE what their agenda is?

No but this one is a bit more reality based. World and industry leaders getting together to plot how to get more of your money. Is that really THAT hard to believe? But that is as about as far as it goes for me.


9. Dulce, NM-Can anybody PROVE the existence of alien bases on Earth?
10. Majestic 12 and OMEGA-Can anyone PROVE these exist?

No and no, Majestic 12 has been debunked and honestly im not familiar with OMEGA


11. Aliens-Can anybody PROVE they are attempting to control our world.

Nope


12. Secret Government-Can anybody PROVE that the President of the United States (or any other advanced society) is unaware of higher authorities than the supreme leader of that country?

I honestly do not really understand your question so imma just gonna say YES!!! YES I CAN PROVE THAT!


IF all of these can be proven, then I fear we are in even more trouble than we think.
I am looking for serious input here.
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What are you afraid of living on the FEMA train with conductor Alien with tour through the DUMB place?


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 11:47 PM by EdSurly
Originally posted by Magnificient


12. Secret Government-Can anybody PROVE that the President of the United States (or any other advanced society) is unaware of higher authorities than the supreme leader of that country?
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President Carter tried to get info from the CIA and was told by Bush that the info was on a need-to-know basis and that being President did not constitute a need-to-know. When our President's movement within the government is limited because of a lack of security clearance, then I think we can say that our President is not head of the government.


Our president has never been the "head" of our government....although our present one is trying his damnest imo. Our government is made up of 3 separate but equal branches; the judicial (SCOTUS), legislative (both houses of congress) and the executive branch (POTUS). At least that's how it was meant to be, not sure what the future holds with a legislative branch willing to give up so much of its power to the other two...especially to our POTUS
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