Attention: Serious concern about loss of information relating to UFO's on the Internet, page 3

Allow me to stress the relevance of this thread by posting a link to one of the previously mentioned website.

I was browsing some testimony data from www.waterufo.com and this case was my first click.
www.waterufo.net...

I found obviously the case in itself very interesting (this man has served in Navy intel in the early 60s) but the second part of the document really hit something in me...
It tends to confirm that NASA has been manipulating images since a long long time and (at least the US) governement(s) has a very hostile approach reharding UFOs.

I will only quote his last words:

" Don't be concerned about me.
I am concerned about many of you.
I worry about people who are too absorbed in the trivial, mundane, and uneventful events in their lives that they don't have time or make time to ponder on grander ideas and mysteries. "

Peace and truth.

Logiciel

I recommend The Black Vault for FBI, CIA, DoD, media, and other documentation obtained via FOIA requests. It is an invaluable resource and if lost would be a blow to those of us who rely primarily on the internet for obtaining documentation. So if we're talking about backing up online depositories of documentation, I think their archive should be included. Click the "Government Document Archive" link on their front page to see what they've got.

reply to post by Aliensun

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Good post, but UFOs have been involved with humanity for much longer than a half century. I think it's likely that they just started showing up more frequently when we started blowing each other up en masse.

reply to post by maintainright

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Was it here?





Nah, I seriously doubt it.

reply to post by Illustronic

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eh?

I have no idea what your trying to say there

Originally posted by Xtraeme
reply to post by Shino

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I've got a horde of old websites archived on my personal server:

Hi Xtraeme (and others),

Did anyone created an archive of the Magonia website at magonia.haaan.com?

The website has apparently been afflicted by a virus/hacker. I've got a PDF archive of most of the material, but it occurred to me that Xtraeme (or some other members of ATS) may be able to provide a html archive which could be more useful in attempting to restore the Magonia website.

Incidentally, it seems that the Wayback Machine has a fairly good set of images of the Magonia website (albeit from over a year ago) at:
web.archive.org...://magonia.haaan.com/

reply to post by IsaacKoi

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Hey Isaac, sorry I've been incommunicado. I have most of the fold3 data now (minus a few stray images, still can't figure out one pesky bug), but magonia.haaan.com never made it into my library. When did the site go down? Maybe to prevent this sort of thing from happening again, I could put together a website where people submit UFO domains and then my spider will just automatically go out and grab them? I'll think on it. Presently I have 63 domains archived. The current list is at pastebin id: ehsKnyPM. Wish I could be more helpful. =/

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reply to post by IsaacKoi

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I used HTTrack to copy that site.

reply to post by Kandinsky

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Kandinsky FTW.

Originally posted by Xtraeme
reply to post by IsaacKoi

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Hey Isaac, sorry I've been incommunicado.

No problem at all. As I've mentioned to you before, we seem to have taken it in turns to drop out of contact for a while due to pressures in real life.

I have most of the fold3 data now (minus a few stray images, still can't figure out one pesky bug)

That's great news. That ends the complete dependence on fold3 keeping these images on their website.

I've been holding off running your Reaper myself due to the issues we've talked about before (particularly the absence of a working check that an image had been downloaded before moving on to the next page, resulting in about 10% of images failing to download on my last attempt).

but magonia.haaan.com never made it into my library.

Well, it sounds like Kandinsky may be able to plug the gap.

When did the site go down?

Very recently. I was contacted about it yesterday from someone involved in running the website - hence my post on here today.

Maybe to prevent this sort of thing from happening again, I could put together a website where people submit UFO domains and then my spider will just automatically go out and grab them? I'll think on it.

Sounds like a good idea to me, although I'd be concerned about any sort of centralised repository rather than having a few people holding independent back-ups on their own computers (since people within ufology have a habit of losing interest and appearing to drop off the face of the planet).

I keep meaning to get to grips with HTTrack or one of the other similiar pieces of software, but haven't yet got on to the issue of storing mirrors of websites. (I've done some experimenting with using Adobe Acrobat to create PDF files containing the webpages of various websites and have very mixed results. I'll post something in this thread about those attempts some time).

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Xtraeme

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I used HTTrack to copy that site.

I know someone that will be delighted to hear that Kandinsky, particularly if your copy is less than a year old.

How recent is your copy?

Are you able to share your copy (at least with someone associated with the Magonia website)?

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