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Originally posted by Dinogur
So what i want to know is what happened to the Local/State Militias that were made to protect the people against the government if it turned Tyrannical and turned upon the people?
Originally posted by Dinogur
And if they still exist today shouldn't they be at least preparing or education the common people about he injustices that are committed every day by our Federal Government.
B: The murder rate from 1870 to 1905 was slightly under or slightly over 1 per 100,000. During this time anyone, black, white, immigrant, a 14 year old, etc. could buy a firearm anywhere and anytime. If "guns cause murder" as the anti-freedom groups say, why was the murder rate so low when anyone and everyone could buy firearms? It is self-evident that whatever factors increase the murder rate, the open and free sale of firearms is NOT one of them.
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Originally posted by Dinogur
So what i want to know is what happened to the Local/State Militias that were made to protect the people against the government if it turned Tyrannical and turned upon the people?
Yes i know that it is called the National Guard, but doesnt the Federal Government run the National Guard?
And if they still exist today shouldn't they be at least preparing or education the common people about he injustices that are committed every day by our Federal Government.
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by Dinogur
So what i want to know is what happened to the Local/State Militias that were made to protect the people against the government if it turned Tyrannical and turned upon the people?
Yes i know that it is called the National Guard, but doesnt the Federal Government run the National Guard?
The National Guard is dual state/federal. It can be federalized in accordance with Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution and relevant laws. About half the states maintain state defense forces which have no federal character; their members are considered unorganized militia (if any at all) for federal purposes.
And if they still exist today shouldn't they be at least preparing or education the common people about he injustices that are committed every day by our Federal Government.
No, the state defense forces aren't responsible for education you. That was the public school system's job.
Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Originally posted by Dinogur
Originally posted by Dinogur
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B: The murder rate from 1870 to 1905 was slightly under or slightly over 1 per 100,000. During this time anyone, black, white, immigrant, a 14 year old, etc. could buy a firearm anywhere and anytime. If "guns cause murder" as the anti-freedom groups say, why was the murder rate so low when anyone and everyone could buy firearms? It is self-evident that whatever factors increase the murder rate, the open and free sale of firearms is NOT one of them.
www.amfire.com...
We should rightfully have tanks, jet aircraft, bazookas, even our own space craft by now. 9 the eleventh would have been swatted down like a mosquito. But no, big momma nanny state knows best.
David Grouchy
Originally posted by akalepos
If you research the Federalist Papers you will find that the reason for the designation of "well regulated militia" comes simply from the facts of being unable, monetarily, to arm, feed, clothe and supply every capable member in the country. They knew it was impractical. They also discussed that industry would suffer by constantly sending people out to the wilderness on preimeter guard. They also knew from their studies and knowledge of Europe that no "standing army" should even approach 10% of the population, that 1 to 2 percent was better.
They clearly state that the job of the militia, all the rest of us NOT in the regulated segment, is to be able to defeat or fight to a standstill the "regulated" militia in the event of it becoming the enforcement arm of a government gone awry that is attempting to negate the rights of the people.
That's just one facet. In the case of an external threat, we, the rest of us, are expected to join with the military to augment them in every way. The same was assumed about insurrection except when the insurrection encompasses the bulk of the populous, then we support them instead. Those are the distinctions.
The reason for the 2nd Amendment is to ensure that our weaponry matches that of the military. (And YES to a certain extent I believe there ought to be limits, but not with AWs) That is the reason behind the clause "shall not be infringed".
The states too are authorized their own "well regulated" militias to deal with state issues and to augment the main military when called upon and sent by the governors. It was recognized that they too, would have economic constraints that wouldn't allow them to fit and deploy all who were able.
It's pretty straight forward and a very interesting read.