Flu Watch 2012

Everyone stay safe. Let's have a wonderful year.

reply to post by juleol

Which means TPTB got what they wanted.... This strain is for sure leaked out on purpose to help their depopulation agenda.

Viruses respond to environmental changes by mutating, adapting and evolving. Just like bacteria and other microbes do. Any disease created in a lab and set loose will mutate almost immediately - in response to the environmental change. Any 'protections' against the original strain would be neutralized - no one would be "immune," including the 'developers.'

Evolution is a continual process. Scientists who work on such things know this, even if the American public remains ignorant of basic biology. No one educated and smart enough to create a pandemic disease is so ignorant and stupid as to release it. But they don't have to - nature has taken over.

Industrial activities contaminate our air, soil and water, thereby change the environment, and provoke mutation in viruses and other microbes. Continual changes mean continual mutation; life on our planet is now experiencing a period of accelerated evolution. This accelerated evolution is most obvious in viruses and microbes, and in the "disease" effects on humans and other complex organisms.

The fastest growing, most secure career path is now "Food Safety" - for good reason.


NOTE: I know "bio-weapons research" has yielded some horrific stuff, and have no doubt there have been accidental and purposeful releases. But trust me, the dangers of political "bioterrorism" pale in comparison to the effects of all the everyday, legal industrial releases. For example, nanotechnology alone has the power to redirect a billion years of evolution, and it looks like it already is. Don't forget - life is made of molecules - industry is changing our molecules and adding all-new never-before-seen synthetic molecules to the mix of life on our planet. Life is a process, like evolution, and the building blocks have been changed. So hang on for the ride. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

RE: TAIWAN EPIDEMIC

Government-subsidized anti-viral flu medicines such as Tamiflu and Relenza are now available in Taiwan. The B-Yamagata virus strain is most prevalent in Taiwan, but is not covered by 2011 flu vaccines - authorities say this is why the government vaccination program is not working.

Patients with H5N1 bird flu are on the priority list for getting anti-virals.

Access to anti-viral drugs expanded to fight flu outbreak

In an effort to contain the spread of the epidemic, government-subsidized anti-viral flu medicines such as Tamiflu and Relenza have been made available to family members, classmates or colleagues of patients with confirmed influenza since Dec. 1, he said.

Eight other categories of patients with flu-like symptoms are also eligible for the drugs. ….those who have developed serious complications, pregnant women determined to need immediate medication, those who have displayed dangerous symptoms, obese people and those who suffer from immunodeficiency, diabetes, or cardioplumonary, liver or kidney disease, along with other serious diseases.

Others include those affected by an infection cluster, those suspected of or confirmed to have contracted the H5N1 virus, and those who have come down with a high fever for 48 hours.

My friend's 2 year old grand daughter in Middle KY was just confirmed having swine flu. They keep her during the day and are both taking Tamiflu hoping not to catch it

My wife has the flu.

She is fine now.

so she was not fine before she contracted the flu wdkirk?

I am just getting over a nasty flu and is not even flu season here it sux enduring a cold or flu while its 105*F outside lol

reply to post by oddnutz

I am just getting over a nasty flu and is not even flu season here it sux enduring a cold or flu while its 105*F outside lol

lol - it does. ...Seems these new flu strains don't respect schedules like the normal flu season - like H1N1 swine flu spreading in spring and summer. Not s'posed to do that. ....I got a nasty flu early, around October - took ages to go away and I still have some congestion. Could be the dry heat tho - should get back to using a humidifier and essential oils (Tea Tree and eucalyptus).

H5N1 bird flu is hitting the headlines elsewhere but the new H3N2 strains seem to be dominant in North America.

AH3N2 - British Columbia, Canada

A flu virus on the Coast is expected to make its way to the Interior.

Dr. Trevor Corneil of the Interior Health Authority said AH3N2 “is in B.C. and it’s going to be here, there’s no doubt about it.”

The virus, which Corneil said has been recorded often in past years, was anticipated and is included in the flu vaccinations now available.

“The unique thing about this virus is adults will have more severe illness and we have concern for the elderly and immuno-compromised,” he said.

The following are guidelines suggested by the US Department of Health and Human Services in case of a avian influenza ( Bird flu ) outbreak in the United States. These guidelines should also apply to anyone preparing for an outbreak.

Buy extra canned goods each time you shop, along with other non-perishable foods such as dried beans, rice, peanut butter, crackers, canned juices, granola bars, powdered milk and bottled water. Widespread flu infections could require grocery stores to close or to limit deliveries if employees are too sick to work. Such stocks can also be used in other types of emergencies.

Have non-prescription drugs and other health supplies on hand, including pain relievers, stomach remedies, cough and cold medicines, fluids with electrolytes, and vitamins. If you have young children, stock up on baby food and diapers.

Stock up on batteries and candles, and be prepared for rolling brownouts or blackouts, and the possibility of no phone service.

WEBMASTER NOTE:

Most people also ask about face masks and if they really offer any protection against the bird flu, hopefully the next few paragraphs will give you a little more information in that regard.

The best masks to buy are rated N-95. This means that the respirators filter out at least 95 percent of airborne particles during testing using a "most-penetrating" sized particle of 0.3 microns. These types of masks will filter out most flu particles in the air (seasonal and bird flu).

But no expert really expects face masks to prevent the spread of a pandemic flu virus in a community. Most people wore some sort of face mask during the Spanish Flu of 1918, yet there was still a terrible pandemic.

If you are caring for someone with the bird flu then most experts will tell you to wear a mask no matter what other precautions you have taken.

The best way to limit the spread of flu isn't a face mask. It's following these simple hygiene rules:

Wash your hands often using soap and water. You can also use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.
When you cough or sneeze, use a tissue to cover your mouth and nose. Discard used tissues in a wastebasket.
Don't have a tissue? Cough or sneeze into your upper sleeve.
Clean your hands after coughing or sneezing. Use soap and water or an alcohol hand sanitizer.
Stay at home if you are sick.


Keep yourself informed of the current bird flu situation. Experts are saying that people infected with one of the current bird flu strains may not even show symptoms for as much as 8-17 days after the infection. This means the infection could enter the US and not be detected for that period of time.

Don't panic, because the virus may never mutate into something that can pass from human to human, and to live your life thinking that a pandemic is just around the corner would not be good for you or the people around you.

Have fun, enjoy life, just be prepared for the unexpected. Remember it's always better to not need something and have it, then to need something and not have it.

I don't care what people like the CDC or WHO say, you get what you deserve if you're foolish and brainwashed enough to get the Flu vaccine. I haven't had a single case of any influenza in over 7 years.....why? Because I don't let government "doctors" stick a needle in my arm, containing their "population control" serum.

Easiest way NOT to get the flu:

1. Wash your hands
2. Learn how to use disinfectants properly
3. Use Purell or Germ-X often
4. Stay away from people who look even remotely ill

If more people would do those simple things and STAY AWAY FROM those vaccines, well, less people would be sick all the time.

We will be watching this map alot this year i think.
outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com...

reply to post by DarknessMatters


Things like Purell and Germ-x CREATE drug resistant diseases. If more people stayed away from antibacterial and antimicrobial crap we wouldn't be left without antibiotics that actually work.


Purell Pandemic: The Creation of Super Germs?

Antibiotic resistance is a type of drug resistance where a microorganism is able to survive exposure to an antibiotic. While a spontaneous or induced genetic mutation in bacteria may confer resistance to antimicrobial drugs, genes that confer resistance can be transferred between bacteria in a horizontal fashion by conjugation, transduction, or transformation. Thus a gene for antibiotic resistance which had evolved via natural selection may be shared. Evolutionary stress such as exposure to antibiotics then selects for the antibiotic resistant trait. Many antibiotic resistance genes reside on plasmids, facilitating their transfer. If a bacterium carries several resistance genes, it is called multidrug resistant (MDR) or, informally, a superbug or super bacterium.

Genes for resistance to antibiotics, like the antibiotics themselves, are ancient. [1] However, the increasing prevalence of antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections seen in clinical practice stems from antibiotic use both within human medicine and veterinary medicine. Any use of antibiotics can increase selective pressure in a population of bacteria to allow the resistant bacteria to thrive and the susceptible bacteria to die off. As resistance towards antibiotics becomes more common, a greater need for alternative treatments arises.

reply to post by soficrow

Purell and GermX don't contain any antibiotics. The article you just posted doesn't apply to those type of products. They are alcohol based. Alcohol based antibacterial products do not promote germ/virus mutations. This is common medical knowledge.

reply to post by DarknessMatters

Purell and GermX don't contain any antibiotics. The article you just posted doesn't apply to those type of products. They are alcohol based. Alcohol based antibacterial products do not promote germ/virus mutations. This is common medical knowledge.

Really? Any sources? Links? References?

FYI - the skin is an organ and absorbs substances into the body. Alcohol is mutagenic, cancerogenic and teratogenic in man. Alcohol is also proven mutagenic for bacteria and/or yeast - and mutations lead to all kinds of things including resistance. My personal yuck on this one is biofilms.

It is a downright risky BAD idea to use alcohol-based skin products regularly. Soap and water is much safer - and more effective.

I provided 2 links - the first, Purell Pandemic: The Creation of Super Germs?, makes the distinction between antibiotics and antiseptics (like alcohol).

…..bacteria do show capability of building resistance to antiseptics through efflux and also through the acquisition of plasmids (circles of DNA encoding for a resistance to the antiseptics), some bacteria can also build a biofilm, a protection shield. Bacteria and microbiological organisms are capable of building and spreading resistance to antiseptics.[iv] An additional problem with antiseptics is that they do not differentiate the cells that they target; in order to be safe enough to be used on human skin, antiseptics such as hand sanitizers, have to be greatly diluted. In fact, it has been proven that it is more effective to wash ones hands with soap and water than to use hand sanitizers.[v] This recent research brings to question whether antiseptics such as hand sanitizers are worth the risk.

.....I agree with much of what you say - especially your "anti-vaccine" views. But the fact that social distancing and good hygiene are our best defense against pandemic flu does not mean it's not going to be a public health crisis. Just that we're on our own so we better learn quick.

The China case is not considered a person-to-person pandemic risk - seems the bus driver got it from wild birds where he works out. WHO reports another H5N1 case in China - and has not confirmed the Zimbabwe case.

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. Rapid Risk Assessment: 4 January 2012

Main conclusions and recommendations
China has reported a single case of highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N1) virus infection in Guangdong province. This case is not part of a cluster. The initial sequence analysis of the virus genome indicates that the virus is genetically closely related to influenza A(H5N1) viruses recently detected in wild birds in Hong Kong, and therefore it is more likely that the infection is of avian than human origin.

This new human case is not unexpected. In countries where avian influenza A(H5N1) virus is entrenched in bird populations and affecting poultry, sporadic infections are likely to continue to occur among exposed humans, occasionally resulting in small clusters of human cases.

The report of a single fatal human case in Guangdong province, China, does not change the current assessment of risk to human health in the EU or globally from wild-type A(H5N1). The risk is considered to be very low in EU/EEA countries. However, vigilance for avian influenza A(H5N1) and other animal influenza viruses in domestic and wild animals in Europe remains important.

CIDRAP: WHO confirms H5N1 deaths in Egypt and China

Jan 5, 2012 (CIDRAP News) – The World Health Organization (WHO) today announced the deaths of two men from H5N1 avian influenza, one from Egypt and another from China whose death was reported earlier in the media.

Re: medical alternatives to vaccines. This thread is worth checking out.

Enzymes May Hold Key to Diseases A-Z

With a pandemic looming and no real defenses, the race is on to find alternatives to failing anti-virals and inadequate, potentially dangerous vaccines. This research falls into the category of alternative solutions - and focuses on proteins. "Proprotein convertases" are proteins - "secretory proteins" to be exact.

reply to post by soficrow


Ah! I was logging in here to ask you if there were any alternatives to vaccines.

reply to post by PassedKarma


Vaccines are NG; the bugs are getting anti-viral resistant; we're back to the old folk remedies and at-home treatment - with a focus on "social distancing and personal hygiene." Best brush up. Here are a couple of government links, but don't stop there.

From flu.gov
Caring for Someone with the Flu

From the CDC
The Flu: Caring for Someone Sick at Home

Main point: Make a "sick room" if you can.


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TAIWAN UPDATE: 71 new cases between January 3 and January 6. Fatality rate: 5%. Main strains: Type B or AH3 (the same or similar strain that's circulating in the USA).

NOTE: The real danger with the Taiwan epidemic is that several strains are circulating, including H5N1, increasing the dangers of recombination and reassortment.

More flu deaths reported: CDC

Taipei, Jan. 6 (CNA) A total of 71 new cases of influenza with complications have been recorded, with four more fatalities, since Jan. 3, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said Friday.

As of that day, health officials had confirmed 366 flu cases with complications, 18 of which were fatal.

The latest victims were a 5-year-old boy in Taoyuan County, a 62-year-old in Chiayi County, an 85-year-old woman in New Taipei and a 74-year-old man in Miaoli County, all of whom died of complications after contracting Type B or Type AH3 influenza.

2 more dead birds in Hong Kong test positive for deadly H5N1, raising health fears

HONG KONG — Hong Kong authorities say two more dead birds have tested positive for a dangerous strain of bird flu, adding to health worries in the city.

Here is one for you Soficrow:

In the United States, public health officials have recorded 12 cases of a new type of swine flu, this one a form of the subtype H3N2, instead of the H1N1 subtype that made up the 2009 pandemic. Federal authorities are already preparing a vaccine to prevent spread of this new virus. None of the people infected with the new strain has become seriously ill.

www.twincities.com...

Man confirmed dead of bird flu in north Jakarta

Wed, January 11 2012 01:18

www.antaranews.com/en/news/1326219524/man-confirmed-dead-of-bird-flu-in-north-jakarta

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - A resident of Sunter, PD (23), in North Jakarta has been confirmed to have died of bird flu, a health ministry official said here on Tuesday.

"The death makes total deaths of bird flu in Indonesia since 2005 to 151 out of 183 cases," the director general of disease control and environmental health, Tjandra Yoga Aditama, said.

He said the health ministry recorded 11 deaths in 2011 and PD`s death was the first in 2012.

Tjandra Yoga who is a vocal point of the International Health Regulation (IHR) has reported the case to the World Health Organization (WHO) for further study.

PD first suffered fever, coughing, and running nose on December 31, 2011 but the fever would not drop although he had taken a medicine.

On January 3, 2012 he was then taken to a private hospital in North Jakarta. On January 6, he had trouble breathing and then collapsed and so he was put in an intensive care unit.

He was later refereed to RSU Tangerang which is a bird flu reference hospital in Banten on January 7 where he later died at 10.50pm.

"Epidemiological examination has been carried out at his residence and its surrounding area by a team from the health ministry and the local health service who later found the risk factor namely contact with his dove that died earlier," Tjandra said. (*)

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