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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
reply to post by againuntodust
No. I don't consider Fox news to be a real source.
You obviously don't know much about reason......
Originally posted by ToneDeaf
another source here :
Given the fact that the man was already in custody, and restrained, even if its not considered "criminal", I would say his relatives have a very good civil case of gross negligence.
Any officer that has been properly certified in OC should know better. Its part of the training, when you pull out that can, you know there is a possibility of medical attention being needed.
Originally posted by Amanda5
reply to post by vogon42
My training - in Australia - should not be too different to America. ....
When you decide to use your spray - you must not spray straight on the face as in directly into the eyes or mouth or nose - without 30cms distance between the person and the bottle
Whether the person is a civilian or a prisoner - you must - call for the ambulance to come and decontaminate -
For civilians who have one in their pocket or handbag - I cannot comment on the criteria for use - local legislation would need to be researched.
Originally posted by MrWendal
How is it popssible that the DA's office found these Officers cleared of any wrong doing??....
The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
It's been more than two and a half years and his wife still can't accept what happened.
"I was shocked. This was something out of a horror movie," says Joyce Christie. She said her husband was depressed and was showing signs of erratic behavior a few days before leaving for Florida.
She called authorities and pleaded with them to take her husband to a hospital and be given his medications. Instead, he was taken to jail for disorderly intoxication.
Her lawsuit alleges he was pepper sprayed 10 times over a 48-hour period, at times while in a restraint chair.
Monshay Gibbs was a deputy trainee at the jail at the time. In a video deposition, she testified that she thought the way Nick Christie was treated was excessive.
"He had a spit mask on and was naked," she said on the video while under oath. Gibbs testified that Christie pleaded with guards to take off the spit mask because he couldn't breathe.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by vogon42
Story: About 20 years ago a lady I work with said that one night she heard a commotion, groaning and screaming in pain outside her bedroom window.
Now this was before cell phones that could film.
She looked out her window and in the alley were three white police officers beating and kicking the &^%$ out of a black man, laying on the ground.
This was in the Northwest suburbs of Illinois, not a ghetto urban area.
I asked this co-worker, why didn't you report this?
Her reply was, "Who would I have called? The police? They were the ones beating the stuffing out of him. You think I want to get involved and have them come after me next?"
There is no reason what so ever for any police officer to beat a person. They have back up and two or three people can easily cuff and restrain a person.
Even tie them to a chair or bed......................but don't beat, taser or pepper spray them.
This is torture pure and simple.
Just because someone has a badge does not give them the right to be able to abuse another human being.
If the person in question is showing signs of mental instability than restraining is necessary but not torturing.
What in God's name is going on here people..................there ought to be 1,000 or more replies with people upset.
Ignore the problem and it won't go away it will come back and bite everyone who ignored the problem in the behind eventually.
Bullies don't stop bullying, they just go on to a different victim.edit on 7-1-2012 by ofhumandescent because: (no reason given)