Originally posted by Asertus
Originally posted by Zedta
Originally posted by Asertus
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Arken
"...yes there is a Santa Claus." as one astronaut said as they came from around the backside of the moon, for instance.
Instance of what, please? Of unacknowledged secrets on the back side of the Moon? I think not.
Fact is, it was a coded message that teh astronauts understood. "Santa Claus" was frequently used as the subject in such communications. To use
Santa Claus as a message of the completion of one of the maneuvers would be illogical since there were automated data streams of information and radar
tracking from the earth and aboard the orbiter to confirm that the maneuver was successful.
How do you know it was a coded message? Who told you that?
It's not true that Mission Control would have known from telemetry that the retro-burn had been successful. It would have taken quite some time to
work that out. Have you ever seen the videos of 1968 Mission Control? Those guys were USING SLIDE RULES.
Ya, good ol' slide rules. Imagine that. Such a crude instrument! How could those planes have flown?
Well, I've used a slide rule for many years and it works just fine, if you know how to use them. Analog is pretty darn good way of calculating. They
even got the trajectories right and the orbits and all. Gee Whiz! All they had was an ol' IBM 360-50. Shoot, you could hardly play tic tac toe on it
and if you wanted to do any figurin' on it, ya had to get an appointment and only so much calculating time.
Fact is, the world is analog and we just try to digitize it. Slide rules were very accurate to a few decimal places, depending on the calculation.
They were great and they didn't need batteries.
As for the comment about the buildings on the moon and all, here is a source who has a couple of nuts loose, maybe, but the baseline of his story
CoastZone Newsletter (Weekend Edition Dec. 26, 2011) www.coasttocoastam.com
Ken Johnston, who worked for NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the Apollo missions, says he was fired for telling the truth. He joined George
Knapp on Sunday night to share his contention that NASA knows there is evidence for both modern and ancient artifacts on the moon, as well as an
active base there. He explained that in his position as Photo Control Dept. manager, he had access to highly detailed film and negatives taken during
the Apollo missions. In viewing 16mm film shot by Apollo 14, they saw a shadow cast in the bottom of a crater, "and as we approached it, in the dark
area there were like five domes lit from the inside, and a little plume that looked like steam streaking up above it," Johnston said.
There are also Apollo pictures that show perfectly round holes, which he's concluded are vents rather than craters because they don't have ridges.
Photos taken during the Apollo 15 mission show beams stretching across the surface that expose some of the lunar substructure, Johnston noted, adding
that during seismic experiments the moon would ring like a bell, possibly indicating it was hollow. One of the more striking anomalous photos was
taken by a Russian lunar orbiter which showed a fractured dome on the moon's surface, he commented. Another image, taken by the Lunik 13 Russian
craft, looks like a drilling device and definitely appears artificial, he continued.
Johnston also talked about some of his early UFO contact experiences, where he was told he would become an ambassador between humans and ETs. He
believes there is a group of ETs called the Watchers that keep tabs on humanity.
Interestingly, he learned that Apollo astronauts were warned off
by beings at one of the craters, and told not to return to the moon, and subsequently NASA scrapped the rest of its planned Apollo missions.[I heard
that we were told not to go back and part of the deal was that we even had to destroy the missile systems (Saturn V) we had ready for use and even the
plans, the blueprints, the tooling all of it, were distroyed. The only one of the Saturn V's is at KSC. It is not airworthy, ever.]