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The mathematics of hypothetical extraction of energy from the vacuum

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 11:58 PM
I tried extracting energy from the vacuum but all I got was hands full of dust.

Next time I'll try a Dyson.

Anyways, if E=mc² where does the mass come from?

posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:53 AM
I believe we've done this before in other threads.
Interesting, as always, Arb, but there's still the question of rest energy that exists in all mass.
If you freeze an electron to -275 deg. it does not stop moving, so it's not in it's lowest possible energy state, i.e. static.
I am not a mathematician, but i have seen all kinds of estimates for the energy of the vacuum to be anything up to several gigawatts/cm^3
Again, i would like to reiterate that basically, mass & energy are in a continuous flux, being constantly exchanged, the energy involved in these transformations is indeed humungous, i still think that there is a very powerful source waiting to be tapped.

posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:55 AM
reply to post by pause4thought


Best to ignore the C^2 part, and just see it as E=M.........

posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 07:10 AM

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by Aletheia007

So, are you using the observed 6×10⁻¹º J/m³ or the theoretical 10¹¹³ J/m³? 'Cause there's a big difference. Personally, I'd think the observed value would be preferred.
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How can these numbers be so hughly different..? Somebody definitely screwed up or doesn't know what he/she is talking about....


posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 09:25 AM
I know i keep haarping on about it, but here are some interesting books;

Modern Aether science

Physics without Einstein

Physics Unified

And for the algebra buffs;

String theory

The modern revolution in physics


posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 09:28 AM
Here are some interesting articles;
The final theory
Bit of a slow link, be patient

posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 02:47 PM
reply to post by zatara

The numbers are hugely different because we always talk about observable energy & mass in the universe, hence the 'dark matter/dark energy' theory.
The math says there is a big difference between observed energy/mass & calculated energy/mass.
If you really boil down quantum mechanics to, say, the higgs field, it's saying there is a point (call it Zero
) where particles can appear & disappear.
If you really boil down Aether theory, it says the same.
If you really boil down string theory, it says the same.

The problem is that each of these theories have a different explanation for how this mass/energy exchange works. The real answer could also be all three at once, the universe is that crazy.
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