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Originally posted by WarJohn
Lets take humans for example...
Humans only have one sense.
The sense of feel.
Those other senses you learned about go back to being feel-based.
Just think long and hard.
Bright example: When bright light hits your eyes you feel it cause discomfort or hurt. Sometimes a sense has to be heavily effected in order for you to grasp that it is only one sense we have.
None of us have five senses.
Five senses is a lie.
-The sense of smelling is feel-based
-The sense of hearing is feel-based
-The sense of seeing is feel-based
-The sense of tasting is feel-based
-The sense of touching is feel-based
But what do you think?
I even buy that the sense of thought is feel-based. Just because your thoughts aren't normally loud enough doesn't mean it isn't. One time I had a very loud and bright thought, and I felt it. Plus, emotions carry along with thought, and you do feel emotions. There is even an emotion excited that comes along when sharing some common sense. Other than that you can feel the calm in mind. We are always feeling something when awake. But even in dreams we feel things like excitement, or fright, or adrenaline.
Originally posted by WarJohn
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
No, they feel something. Even if it is peace or calmness, they feel something.
feel
[feel] Show IPA verb, felt, feel·ing, noun
verb (used with object)
1.
to perceive or examine by touch.
2.
to have a sensation of (something), other than by sight, hearing, taste, or smell: to feel a toothache.
3.
to find or pursue (one's way) by touching, groping, or cautious moves.
4.
to be or become conscious of.
5.
to be emotionally affected by: to feel one's disgrace keenly.
verb (used without object)
9.
to have perception by touch or by any nerves of sensation other than those of sight, hearing, taste, and smell.
10.
to make examination by touch; grope.
11.
to perceive a state of mind or a condition of body: to feel happy; to feel well.
12.
to have a sensation of being: to feel warm.
13.
to make itself perceived or apparent; seem: How does it feel to be rich?[/ex
dictionary.reference.com...
Senses are physiological capacities of organisms that provide inputs for perception. The senses and their operation, classification, and theory are overlapping topics studied by a variety of fields, most notably neuroscience, cognitive psychology (or cognitive science), and philosophy of perception. The nervous system has a specific sensory system or organ, dedicated to each sense.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by WarJohn
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
No, they feel something. Even if it is peace or calmness, they feel something.
Do you think that feeling would be registered by thoughts though? Can feelings and thoughts exist without each other, even if it is a subconscious though? I feel that perhaps a TRUE Stoic would be have to be thoughtless to be emotionless.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by WarJohn
Lets take humans for example...
Humans only have one sense.
The sense of feel.
Those other senses you learned about go back to being feel-based.
Just think long and hard.
Bright example: When bright light hits your eyes you feel it cause discomfort or hurt. Sometimes a sense has to be heavily effected in order for you to grasp that it is only one sense we have.
None of us have five senses.
Five senses is a lie.
-The sense of smelling is feel-based
-The sense of hearing is feel-based
-The sense of seeing is feel-based
-The sense of tasting is feel-based
-The sense of touching is feel-based
But what do you think?
I even buy that the sense of thought is feel-based. Just because your thoughts aren't normally loud enough doesn't mean it isn't. One time I had a very loud and bright thought, and I felt it. Plus, emotions carry along with thought, and you do feel emotions. There is even an emotion excited that comes along when sharing some common sense. Other than that you can feel the calm in mind. We are always feeling something when awake. But even in dreams we feel things like excitement, or fright, or adrenaline.
Quite an interesting theory! So, humour me with this! What happens when people are able to silence their minds like as aimed for via meditation in spirituality? Are they senseless? Haha.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by WarJohn
Technically you're correct... all senses are feeling...
Though if you consider the fact that all matter is just a vibration, ask yourself this...
What isn't a vibration?
Feeling is just a comprehension of vibration
..to respond to ...the group?
Originally posted by WarJohn
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by WarJohn
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
No, they feel something. Even if it is peace or calmness, they feel something.
Do you think that feeling would be registered by thoughts though? Can feelings and thoughts exist without each other, even if it is a subconscious though? I feel that perhaps a TRUE Stoic would be have to be thoughtless to be emotionless.
I think thoughts are feelings.
The only person that is emotionless is a dead body. Something in the aware brain is always feeling around for extra sensation.
Nine Year Cycle
The third ray governs all cycles such as those of nine million years, nine hundred thousand years, nine thousand years, nine hundred years and nine years. In other words, all that originates on the third ray is controlled by spiral-cyclic efforts based upon the numer "9", and its multiples such as 9,90, 900, 9,000, 90,000, and 900,000. Now, reflect on the fact, that the 3rd Ray is the personality ray of the Earth, the ray of the Mahachohan, and the ray of the third planetary centre - humanity, the Throat. The emanatory impulses of the third ray pulsate in a cyclic peak every nine years under the direction and inspiration of the third ray personality ray of our planetary Logos, Sanat Kumura and the direction of the Mahachohan R. This is the real reason behind the Occult fact that the Hierarchy meets in silent conclave every nine years:
At those times, when the Hierarchy meets in silent conclave, a part of God's vision, and His formulation of that vision for the immediate present, is revealed for the next nine year cycle. They then, in perfect freedom and with full mutual cooperation lay Their plans to bring about the desired objectives of the Heads of the Hierarchy, as They in Turn cooperate with still higher Forces and Knowers." [Esoteric Psychology II, 241-242]Text
"You are not allowed to enter here, unless you know geometry." (Plato's Academy in Athens)
“The Dodecahedron is the form with which God decorated the Universe.” (Plato, Timeo)
The universe is based on the dodecahedron which has 12 pentagons (12 x 5 = 60 not 72 = 12x6).
Basing on Tibetan teachings and on Pythagora’s (?) harmonical value of Numbers we could say that:
- 12 is the Number of a creation (3) in expression (4), i.e. of a cycle in expression (the Number of a “complete cycle” is 24 = 12x2 - “Rays and Initiations”, V)
- 6 is the Number of “perfect form in Space” (ibidem): 6 = 1x2x3 and also 6 = 1+2+3, the synthesis of triadic Power
- 5 is the Number of manifestation on mental plan, that is building of thought forms
- 60 is the Number of 3 cycles between Vulcan (1st Ray) Jupiter (2nd Ray) and Saturn (3th Ray) to build a Five pointed Star (5 positions of Saturn in the Zodiac whereas Jupiter returns in the same Sign of a first conjunction) and also a Six pointed Star (6 positions of Jupiter in the Zodiac during 3 conjunctions and 3 oppositions)
… So we can think that 72 = 12x6 or 24x3 is the Number of a perfect cycle in space.
And that 60 = 12x5 is the Number of building a thought form : the superior Triangle of solar Conscience follows this Law! The Laws of Golden Section φ in Five pointed Star and of π in Six pointed one.
Finally 84 = 12x7 is the Number of perfect completion of a cycle, and 84 is the revolution period of Uranus, the 7th Ray!
How simple and powerful are Numbers!
“The science closest to spirit is higher mathematics, if correctly understood”. Hierarchy (1931) - 162
Here is the Solar Five pointed Star that Solar Conscience is building from 1901 to 2020 (when finally Jupiter and Saturn will be joint in Aquarius)
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