Which SHTF Scenario Is The Most Probable One and What Is Your Plan When It Happens?, page 2
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reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 02:30 PM by LordOfArcadia
While it isn't as "rewarding" to think and write about, the greatest probability of the SHTF comes from a global pandemic.

Experts in the field state that it is a matter of when, not if. We are now 38 years removed from the last pandemic and while it is not scientifically accurate to state that we are "overdue", it is easy to understand why the MSM uses this term because it encapsulates the more complex predictive models in an easy to understand manner.

Now a global pandemic in and of itself wouldn't necessarily make the SHTF, but it certainly has the highest probability. Consider the H5N1. It has a lethality rate of 50%. Yes, you read that right. 50% of all people that catch this nasty bug will die. The 1918 pandemic had an infection rate of 30-40% and with our far more connected world, 30-40% would be a very conservative infection rate. This has all of the ingredients for the SHTF.

These are the a priori factors and the more difficult question to answer is the probability of H5N1 mutating so that it makes the leap from animal to human transmission to human to human transmission. If this happens (and the influenza virus is one of the most aggressive at mutating rapidly) then all bets are off as to how bad it could get. What worries me is that H5N1 is very prevalent in pigs and China have increased their pig population by several orders of magnitude in the last couple of decades. This is a literal breeding ground for H5N1 to mutate into our nightmare.

Economic collapse, WWIII, etc. appeals to our need to be able to "do something" and a global pandemic is far harder to "fight against", but my personal opinion is that this is the one to really worry about. I don't want to seem to dismiss the others as being impossible, just less likely which was the OP question.

As for preparations. In the event we are faced with this situation, the best defense is to quarantine yourself with NO contact with the outside world. No going to the grocery store, no going to work, no going to the gas station, etc. This also means that you must be prepared to deal with utilities being disrupted, because it is a very real possibility that key personnel will become ill or worse.


reply posted on 30-12-2011 @ 06:19 PM by candcantiques
reply to post by survivaloftheslickest



In a SHTF scenario, regardless of the scenario, my plan is to get away from people. Get out into the middle of nowhere (got my spot already picked). The most important things to have on hand are, salt (cant survive without it plus it can preserve food), water, fire, fishing line and hooks, rifle, shotgun (bullets and shells go without saying). Everything else you can do without. Pack light so you can move fast. Other good things to have. Binoculars, spotter scope, machette, knife, clear plastic for shelter and can be used to condensate water, masons hammer, 9 volt rechargeable batteries and small solar panel recharger, battery free radio, etc. Most importantly if you are going to stock up on a lot of food how are you going to defend it and you when everyone around you is starving? Why stock up on gold? You cannot eat it and salt water and food will be more valuable.
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