Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by FRANKBLACKmillenniumgroup
THAT MOVIE IS SEVERAL YEARS OLD...

THE PROBLEM WITH GAYS IS THEY WANT TO DEFINE WHO THEY ARE BY THEIR SEXUALITY
WHILE THE REST OF US DEFINE WHO WE ARE BY THE KIND OF MORAL HONEST AND PATRIOTIC PERSON WE LIVE OUR LIVES AS,

Before you get banned (and I fully expect that you will), I should mention that I do believe that it is the straight world that chooses to define gays by their sexuality. I would suggest that all they really want to do is the same as the rest of us...simply get along.

The Mods can deal with the trolling. (is school out already?)

edit on 8-12-2011 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because...ok?

SO true about straight people being the ones to define gays by their sexuality. I'll never forget when I was 19 and I was living in a house with 3 other straight guys. No one knew I was gay yet. One of them found out one day and told everyone. Everyone was cool with it. But one of them took a few days to accept it. At one point, he said, "Don't you want someone you can go to the movies with or have dinner with?" As if being gay meant that all it was about was sex and would exclude anything else!
Then again, I am also the first one to admit that a lot of gays pour on the sex talk etc. pretty thick. I guess that's because for them, it's the opposite of hiding it. And like it or not, those parades are FULL of heavy sex vibe, which I've always thought goes too far myself.

I've been watching this thread go by for a week and a half now.

Everytime I see it I think "good for them."

And then promptly think about a boyfriend I had in high school who was also raised by lesbians.

A slightly misogynist, steroid using bi-sexual who it turned out was screwing a male friend of mine, and ended up being a Carnie.

Originally posted by Aeons
I've been watching this thread go by for a week and a half now.
Everytime I see it I think "good for them."
And then promptly think about a boyfriend I had in high school who was also raised by lesbians.
A slightly misogynist, steroid using bi-sexual who it turned out was screwing a male friend of mine, and ended up being a Carnie.

Well it's certainly not like a child raised by lesbians can't be bi, a jerk, or both, either.

Sorry to be late, but I really just have to reply to a poster a few pages back.

Wow, did you really just ask that gay guy how he doesn't know if he's gay because he hasn't had sex with a woman? You're one idiot for even saying that. You sound like the majority of sex crazed straight men who think every attraction revolves around nothing other than sex.

Ever heard of other things such as oh I dont know, an EMOTIONAL connection with someone you want to be with?
You just said that you tried something with a guy because you were "sexually frustrated" and that it felt good, but your gut told you it was wrong.
So what, if the gay guy sleeps with a woman, and it feels good, then he is not gay? Why can you say it felt good, but he can't? Who you want to spend time with and get butterflies from is way more of a representation of your orientation than SEX.

I'm a lesbian who did not want to be one. In fact I tried "Praying the gay away" for years. It never worked. I only felt emotions, physical, and sexual feelings for FEMALES. But guess what... Even though I KNEW I was gay, I tried being with guys to fit in with the norm. It felt emotionless and boring to hold guys hands, to hug them, to kiss them, and yes, I even tried sex with my male best friend. I knew if i could enjoy it with anyone, it would be the guy I was closest too.

Guess what? I was bored out of my mind, and I had no connection with him. Being with guys felt "Guilty" and I had a "Bad gut feeling" to me as well, just how you did towards guys. Yeah, well it's because I like GIRLS.

Quit playing this "you don't know you're gay until you have sex with a woman" bull crap. You don't need to screw someone to know what you are.

Also, why are people the people who are against gays adopting by quoting bible verses and calling it unnatural failing to argue in response to why infertile people shouldn't be allowed to adopt then? Nature didn't allow them reproduction, no? So why aren't people speaking out against them as unnatural? God made these people unnatural, so I guess that's for a reason right? And like some anti-gay poster said, "if people aren't having sex for the purpose of procreation, then it is considered being promiscuous". Hell, there's a lot of promiscuity going on in the world, and 85% of it it is not gays I guess all the infertiles are promiscuous and unnatural.

My experience with a lesbian couple raising children is just the opposite. My sister inlaw is a lesbian and married to another woman. They have 2 daughters and a son. The son left the house at 18 and joined the Marines to go fight in Iraq, he couldnt take being told he was a piece of $hit because he was male. The two daughters were told repeatadly that they were lesbians and should never date males because they are lower life forms. The youngest spent alot of time cutting herself, she dropped out of school at 13 and got pregnant . The oldest at least is going to school and has 2 children and single. The moms basically scare all the men away or as they like to call them "sperm donors". Im glad to see that kid adjusted but as with all families you have winners and losers.

Bill

Personally I think it is kind of funny...we debate human ideas and make our best rational conclusions...this kid seems successful therefore a bi-couple CAn raise a good child...look at all the straight couples that raise bad kids...that whole thing

I guess with those of us who believe there is a God we look at his and see the logic but know that being sinners orselves - and how we know how much we must pay for our own sin - look at this and think that our generation is gonna pay big time for the sins we commit. The world itself and its ideals are in themselves evil and being mocked or laughed at as a Christian is part for the course.

Something in me just says "# man we are in a heap of trouble" and it saddens me to be apart of a world that seems to be so confused (me along wit it) on what is actually the best thing for us.

I fear that only divine intervention could ever solve the Human aspect of ourselves...it seems that no matte what we are generically weak...even if our intentions are Godly we seem to sucum to the basic norms which is power, ego, righteousness, and sometimes a good favour to our common man.

I find it harder each day to live in a world that differs from what I wanted to believe in as a child...I rationally know "how the world is" but sometimes I reflect and remember how once ago life seemed good and simple. Good and Bad was eay...it wasn't political, you didnt have to consider all the options...and my adult mind would say that that was when I was immature and didn't know how things were...but isn't that the point?

Have we become so full of knowledge and been so concerned with how other people live their lives that we have forgotten the simple truths of life?

I feel saddened by the world I see each day, hope for a glimmer of something that I used to know.

I guess the greatest gift is to live in peace...

As long as the gay parents aren't 2 male pedophiles who like little boys, it should be just fine.

im sick of this. gays have gone way out of hand. they have more rights then straight people.
i have to be gay and black in london to gey a job. what is this? why has it happen?

Originally posted by PinkiePie
im sick of this. gays have gone way out of hand. they have more rights then straight people.
i have to be gay and black in london to gey a job. what is this? why has it happen?

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And I thought some people on this thread couldn't POSSIBLY get anymore ignorant than now. YOU, my friend, have gone and taken the bloody cake.

MORE RIGHTS THAN STRAIGHT PEOPLE??????? ARE YOU TAKING THE F*CKING PISS WITH THAT COMMENT????? We are still in some places forced to fight tooth and bloody claw to even be viewed as regular human beings that still breathe, break, and bleed, speakless of being able to get jobs and do other things that should be the natural-born or legally bestowed right of any decent human.

Don't you bloody dare sit there and complain about straight people having less rights that gays. We are lucky to be granted the common courtesy and respect that one is owed from beings of the same f*cking race. If you truly feel that your kind is allowed more rights than our kind, by all means, love, come on over and join us!!! The more, the bloody merrier, they always say.

Originally posted by SNAFU38
We have a politician here, Penny Wong. As a man, she is HOT. I'd guess a gay (lesbian) would agree.

Dude, no she's not... oh crap!



Unless you mean as a man she is hot, and not as a man yourself, you find her hot.

?!?!?!

anyway, none of it impacts me, but I've known kids who'd grown up in same sex families, and maybe it was a one off, but this family is a wreck. The second eldest son used to frequent connections in perth, go home with men, but claim not to be gay. The eldest son ended up in prison for allegedly molesting his kids, and the daughter is a brutal mean spirited woman. The mother was a prison guard, so it may have stemmed from that, as she was pretty much nasty all round.

I'm not saying they're all like that, but had one of those children stood on a podium and proclaimed their lives to the world, it would be a different story.

But I'm not against gay marriage. It does not affect me at all, and it should not be anyone elses business. Marriage has long ago stopped being about the church and all about convenience anyway.

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I love to hear people speak truth to power .

I hope we all do the same in our lives .

That's moral integrity at it's finest .

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