posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 02:31 AM
Originally posted by arbiture
reply to post by ANOK
No but thank thank you you for offering to do the work for me. Perhaps what what I have done for the last 30+ years is fiction, science fiction or
just damn fiction. Did you ever actually look at the life of Karl Marx?
I didn't offer to do the work for you, I did the work for you, and yet you probably didn't even bother to read or research anything did you?
Everything I say can be researched, go ahead. I am not posting opinions, I am posting historical facts. If you pay attention to what I am saying,
and read the links I provide, you can see it for yourself.
What I am talking about is not Marxism. His life has nothing to do with it, Marx did not invent 'socialism'. He was part of the formation of
'communism' though, along with others. I am not a Marxist thank you. I was simply explaining the meaning of the terms that are being misused and
confused by you. Now you claim to be some expert, after you made completely incorrect claims and showed you think all socialism is Marxism?
Where's the attention to detail?
Actually I guess it's not that difficult to study 'politics' for years completely understanding the mainstream version of it, but completely missing
the truth, because it has been so well hidden. To the right all 'lefties' are Marxists I guess? Even established politicians believe the lies,
because that's is what you're taught, it's part of society now, everything else must
be a lie. To suddenly admit, to even yourself, that
everything you base your life on is lies, and backwards, is just more than most could even consider. The consequences would be too much.
I have spent some 33 years now studying working class social political history, if you want to play that game.
As Socialism in general, Anarchism was born among the people; and it will continue to be full of life and creative power only as
long as it remains a thing of the people. 'Modern Science and Anarchism' p.5, Peter Kropotkin, 1908
Convinced that freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice and that Socialism without
freedom is slavery and brutality.
The League [for Peace and Freedom] loudly proclaims the necessity of a radical social and
economic reconstruction, having for its aim the emancipation of people's labor from the yoke of
capital and property owners, a reconstruction based upon strict justice - neither juridical nor
theological nor metaphysical justice, but simply human justice - upon positive science and upon the
widest freedom. 'Stateless Socialism: Anarchism', Mikhail Bakunin 1814-1876, Anarcho-Collectivist.
Contrary to popular misconception, the goal of Communists was ultimately to abolish the State altogether. Basic Communist ideology holds that the
purpose of "the State" is to enforce social and economic disparity. According to Marxist thinking the State developed as a tool for a minority of
people to oppress other people. Marxists contend that we are all naturally relatively equal, and that significant inequality among people can only
exist through the use of State force. Historically the State has always been used as a means to support a wealthy and powerful minority. From the
Sumerians and Egyptians to the British Empire and beyond, the traditional role of the State has been to protect the interests of the wealthy and
facilitate wealth transfer from the working masses to the wealthy property owners, as Adam Smith noted:...
edit on 1/3/2012 by ANOK because: typo