Hitler Was a Socialist!!!

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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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In another thread, my avatar seemed to spark an interesting debate, not quite on topic with the thread however. I think one worthy of it's own thread. Hitler was a Socialist!!!

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Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ] ( listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), commonly referred to as the Nazi Party). He was Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and head of state (as Führer und Reichskanzler) from 1934 to 1945. Hitler is most commonly associated with the rise of fascism in Europe, World War II, and the Holocaust.


So without further adieu, Adolph Hitler. Was he a socialist, or was he a socialist?
Please discuss!!!



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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Godwin, you insta-win !
If I've never seen a troll thread before...

He was white, are all whites like him ?
He was german, are all germans like him ?
He had a moustache, are all moustache bearers like him ?

Try put a little more thought into what you post next time...
gg wikipedia, troll magnet.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Good people and bad people prefer socialism.

You can't say socialism is bad because someone bad prefers it, it seems that's one of the point your trying to make without saying it out loud.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Yes, it's too bad that one only needs to visit wikipedia to see the truth of such a controversial figure as Hitler.


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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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He was a facist, communist, dictator, catholic, racist, german, and much more.

So, the question is, who cares if Hitler was a socialist? It says nothing about socialism. Just like it says nothing about Germans.

Read This
And This

If you want to say something negative about socialism. Go ahead. However, no one's dumb enough to follow Ad Hominem fallacy logic.

The question isn't if he was a socialist or it. The question is "Does it matter?", and the answer is a blatant "no".

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Unless you're addressing a totally different issue by bringing this up. In which case, I retract my statement.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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Just see this thread...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Why bother repeating it all again?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
In another thread, my avatar seemed to spark an interesting debate, not quite on topic with the thread however. I think one worthy of it's own thread. Hitler was a Socialist!!!

en.wikipedia.org...

Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ] ( listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), commonly referred to as the Nazi Party). He was Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and head of state (as Führer und Reichskanzler) from 1934 to 1945. Hitler is most commonly associated with the rise of fascism in Europe, World War II, and the Holocaust.


So without further adieu, Adolph Hitler. Was he a socialist, or was he a socialist?
Please discuss!!!


So? We norwegian-socialists makes it much better better then the states,no?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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Do feel free to repost any of the good points from the other thread!


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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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You know who also was a socialist(presuming he existed, and as told in the bible)?

Jesus Christ.

Funny, isn't it?

This type of reasoning could take you anywhere.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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And do feel free to answer to all the objections that have been posted so far.

After all, you started it.
If you won't discuss them and only wait for stars and flags, what's the point ?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Also for those of you discussing the difference between National Socialism and Socialism, I present to you the national socialist, holding american, confederate flags with swastikas on them, and they are running for office.

www.nsm88.org...



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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Umm...Well yeah, Germany had a socialist government at the time....

Nothing new there.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Are you speaking of the threads you posted?

Because I don't necessarily disagree with you.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Please provide more than that. If it says so in scripture then please point out where it says that.


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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Yes, it's too bad that one only needs to visit wikipedia to see the truth of such a controversial figure as Hitler.


Actually, what Wikipedia says is that Hitler was a member of the National Socialist(Nazi) Party in Germany. However, this is merely a name of a party. Ideologically, the Party was anti-Marxist and anti-Communist; which means it was anti-Socialist. It was named as it was named, implying the opposite, because at the time of its formation Communism was gaining significant popularity throughout the region and naming it such, implying it was a ideologically socialist party, was an effort to fool the ignorant.

Therefore, because the party that Hitler was the leader of was inherently anti-Socialist, ideologically, Hitler was anti-Socialist.

If you want to argue that because the name of the party implied socialism in the ideology it followed, we can argue that the Chinese are Republicans; after all, they are the People's Republic of China...
edit on 30/11/11 by madhatr137 because: Finishing a thought
edit on 30/11/11 by madhatr137 because: Spelling



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Please provide more than that. If it says so in scripture then please point out where it says that.


You can research it yourself.

Jesus always talked about how it was a curse to be rich. How everyone should give their money to the poor and charities and live frugally. How the pursuit of money (Capitalism essentially) corrupted and made men unable to come to god.

Oh, and he provided free education, healthcare, and even at times food to anyone around him.

There's no certain scripture "Verily I say unto you today, I am a socialist". However, all the principles he believed in, and his actions, that could be related the the economic system, all pointed to him having the similar ideals of socialism.

Though again, Ad Hominem. That doesn't say anything Good about socialism. Look at what it is to judge it's merit, not irrelevant judging of the characters who believed in it, usually irrelevant to their morality.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Ok anti-communist I can understand as they opposed the communist force of Russia, however I can not seem to find anywhere that he was anti-marxist and opposed the system we know as socialism today. Nazi Germany was text book socialism, I beg you to show me how it was any different.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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His teachings could be attributed to any political system.
Give unto Caesar what is due unto Caesar.
Oh and he healed the sick, last time I checked that was not free government run healthcare, but I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. I beg of you to find anything that is supportive of your outrageous claim.
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Whether he was a socialist is up for debate. He more closely resembles a neoconservative and he was a fascist.
What is for certain is that he was NOT the type of socialist that the right leaning people and organizations like FOX want to attribute to him. Fascism is against several types of socialism (liberal socialism and communism). So what is for certain is that Hitler was in fact far right.





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