It's time to Relocate Israel., page 1
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reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:32 PM by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to post by rigel4


Ethnic cleansing doesn't sound like a great idea. You're talking about forcibly relocating almost eight million people, expropriating most of their property and probably rendering them effectively stateless in the process. A lot of families have lived there for generations, before anyone even thought of Zionism, and you're advocating giving their property "back" to people who don't and have never owned it. All as some sort of final solution to a problem that isn't even Israel's fault.

I take back what I said on the ancient nuclear war thread. All of this has happened before.
edit on 27-11-2011 by FurvusRexCaeli because: redundundant



reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:32 PM by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by GeorgiaGirl




Why is is that Israel should have to move?


Because the people who moved to Israel once it was formed have no claim to that land. Just because some corrupt world leaders decided to steal the land from the Arabs doesn't mean it's okay.

Even today they're still stealing land in the form of settlements. If you support this I hope someone comes by your house tonight with a bulldozer and leaves you homeless.
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reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:39 PM by rigel4
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to
post by rigel4


Ethnic cleansing doesn't sound like a great idea. You're talking about forcibly relocating almost eight million people, expropriating most of their property and probably rendering them effectively stateless in the process. A lot of families have lived there for generations, before anyone even thought of Zionism, and you're advocating giving their property "back" to people who don't and have never owned it. All as some sort of final solution to a problem that isn't even Israel's fault.

I take back what I said on the ancient nuclear war thread. All of this has happened before.
edit on 27-11-2011 by FurvusRexCaeli because: redundundant


No.
No None mentioned force!!!!!!
It could be all very peaceful and negotiated.

Your view of owning something, i feel is in the bricks and mortar level of understanding.
I bought it, therefore i own type of thinking.

Israel was given the land by United Nations (League of Nations) to be exact.

Relocating could be done.
Transfer over a 10 year period of people and assets.
Most Isreali's are Immigrants in the first place.

So it woudn't be new to them. Would it?
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reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:39 PM by yourmaker
Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
I disagree.

Why is is that Israel should have to move?


what??

Following the 1947 United Nations decision to partition Palestine, on 14 May 1948 David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared Israel a state independent from the British Mandate for Palestine.


Why should Palestine have had to get annexed??

Neighboring Arab states invaded the next day in support of the Palestinian Arabs.


no doubt.
That would be like China declaring San Francisco a state independant of America because of Chinatown...(probably not but I like the analogy)

According to the Hebrew Bible the name "Israel" was given to the patriarch Jacob after he successfully wrestled with an angel of God. Jacob's twelve sons became the ancestors of the Israelites, also known as the Twelve Tribes of Israel or Children of Israel. Jacob and his sons had lived in Canaan but were forced by famine to go into Egypt for four generations until Moses, a great-great grandson of Jacob, led the Israelites back into Canaan in the "Exodus"



According to the Torah, God promised the land to the three Patriarchs of the Jewish people.


This is the problem, they are basing their claims off a book thousands of years old and in a faith that can't be proven.

Between the fall of the northern Kingdom of Israel in 722 BCE and the Muslim conquests of the 7th century CE (a period of over 1500 years), the region came under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanid, and Byzantine rule.


Jewish presence in the region significantly dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE


By this same logic, the Native Americans should have a state. Since we live on 'their' land.


The Jewish Legion, a group primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine in 1917. Arab opposition to British rule and Jewish immigration led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of a jewish militia known as the Haganah ("The Defense"), from which the Irgun and Lehi, or Stern Gang, paramilitary groups later split off.


They use their status as jews as a front for defense, while on the conquest.

During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour sent a letter that stated:[67]

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."


So what happened?

en.wikipedia.org...

"ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations"


they lied.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:41 PM by Redevilfan09
reply to post by rigel4



That is a great idea, but are they going to move the most sacred site with the country of Israel and also stir up the Islamists in the meantime? There is a lot more on the line than just simply packing up and moving. This is a battle that maybe all of us young countries should stay out of considering it has nothing to do with any of us, especially if you believe religion is a load of BS.

Israel are not a peaceful nation. If they are not killing someone, they sure as hell do have someone doing it for them whether you agree or disagree. They are just as bad as the rest of the Middle East.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 04:43 PM by k0mbination
reply to post by rigel4



Isnt it about time about time all of them learned to play nice.
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