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Civil Liberties Issues Split Republicans

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posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 05:19 PM
Former Georgia Rep. Bob Barr (search) stands on the side of the GOP that believes more attention needs to be paid to increasing government power and diminishing individual rights.

Barr’s position is in stark contrast to that of President Bush, who argues that the Patriot Act (search) has been a vital tool in the War on Terror, and the legislation should be extended.

Convention week has been marked by protests against the Patriot Act and other related laws, but the debate played out in a more staid format on Wednesday at a midtown Manhattan law firm.

At a conference organized by the Arab American Institute (search) and the American Conservative Union (search), Barr was critical not only of the Patriot Act, but he also worried about CAPPS II (search), “which would have color-coded citizens in a way reminiscent of a totalitarian regime.”

He criticized this scrutiny of airplane passengers that CAPPS II permits.

“As long as someone does not have a weapon, that should be the end of the government’s concern,” Barr said. “We ought not to stand for our government creating dossiers on law abiding citizens and lawful visitors to our country.”

But the administration has no interest in eroding civil liberties and in fact the Patriot Act protects them, said Barbara Comstock, former spokeswoman for Attorney General John Ashcroft (search).

Within the Patriot Act are “special provisions to monitor civil liberties … Every six months, the attorney general is required to file a report, and he does.”

Former Bush administration official David Aufhauser said positions on the Patriot Act are based on two things: one’s perception of the “immediacy of the terror threat” and “how much faith you have in the government.”

Reflecting this blueprint, Republican delegates offered a range of opinions on the Patriot Act, but were generally supportive of Bush’s position that the legislation is necessary to fight the War on Terror domestically.

The Patriot Act “doesn’t look like it’s going to be an infringement on honest, law-abiding citizens. We have to protect ourselves, and we need the tools to do it,” said John Hayssley, a Bush supporter from Houston, Texas, and the husband of a delegate.

Also supportive of the president’s policies was Frankie Middleton, a Republican activist from Sumter Township, Mich.

“Why would I care about my rights if I’m dead? I’d rather them be able to check out people of any group. If I have nothing to hide, then I have no” reason to be worried, he said.

But other delegates were more cautious. Predicting that the legislation may need to be tweaked, Daniel Branch, a delegate from Dallas, Texas, said, “My view is that a lot of times when you have reform quickly, sometimes it takes a while” to see what adjustments need to be made.

George Salem, a Republican activist and chairman of the Arab American Institute, understood the issues facing lawmakers, but thought a better job could be done.

“We have to attempt to balance the obvious national security concerns with protecting our civil liberties,” Salem said. "As someone who represents major Middle East investors, there are such excesses. … One wire transfer to a charity opens the person to all of their records being scrutinized. … That can’t be fair.”

The primary critique within the debate is a fear that government is taking too much power while individual rights are receding. Aufhauser, chairman of the National Security Council’s (search) committee against terrorist financing and former general counsel of the Treasury Department, dismissed fears that the additional government power would be abused.


Appears Bill O'reilly was wrong once again that civil liberties are in fact in danger.. It's abundantly clear that this admin is trying to exchange liberties for safety... What a blowhard...

posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 05:48 PM

Originally posted by TrueLies

“Why would I care about my rights if I’m dead? I’d rather them be able to check out people of any group. If I have nothing to hide, then I have no” reason to be worried, he said.

I would like to turn this around

What use is my life if I have no rights?


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