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Topic started on 10-4-2003 @ 11:40 AM by abstract_alao
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RELIGION
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This is a 17th century fresco and is located
in the Svetishoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia.
Note the two saucer shaped craft on either side of Christ.
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"The Baptism of Christ"
A disk shaped object is shining beams of light down on
John the Baptist and Jesus - Painted in 1710
Fitzwilliam Musuem, Cambridge
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La Tebaide - 1460 - Red UFO
Academy of Florence
MARY
The Life Of Mary - 14th Century Tapestries
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'The Magnificent' - Notre-Dame in Beaune, Burgandy
The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called
"The Annunciation with Saint Emidius" (1486) and hangs in the
National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a
pencil beam of light down into Mary's crown chakra.
A blow up of the object is next to the painting.
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The above picture depicts Jesus and Mary on what appear to be lenticular clouds.
The painting is entitled "The Miracle of the Snow" and was painted by Masolino Da Panicale
(1383-1440) and hangs at the church of Santa Maria Maggiore, Florence, Italy.
These pictures create a lot of questions?!?!
Here is where I got them from
www.crystalinks.com...
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reply posted on 10-4-2003 @ 11:44 AM by Ocelot
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I've seen some of these paintings before. Really interesting to say the least.
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 09:48 AM by James the Lesser
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Jesus is an aaaalllliiieeeennnnn.(Say to beat of Living with a Hernia By Weird Al)
HAHAHAHAHA!!! You all worship an alien!!!! HA!
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 11:41 AM by Byrd
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Uhmm... okay... I'll bite:
What truth are they supposed to be revealing?
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 11:45 AM by Tetsuo-51
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Ive seen these paintings. Pretty cool.
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 12:29 PM by Thomas Crowne
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Again, a misunderstanding of the truth.
It is clearly evident that back then, just as there are flying fish, there were flying jellyfish. The beams of light were actually their long,
stinging tentacles. They would float around on the updrafts, much like hawks, lower their tentacles and troll for those pesky believers. There is no
evidence of them as the ones who weren't able to drift back over sea and landed on earth merely dried up and blew away.
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 06:25 PM by abstract_alao
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Ok the reason I posted this is because lately I have been seeing the world in a new light. A lot of it has to do with the many personalities that I
met on this site. If there is one thing that I know now, that I didnít know then, Is that the knowledge truly is power.
I saw a special on the history channel that was talking about Ufoís in the Bible. I must admit that at first I was skeptical. But then a lot of what
they were saying was making sense.
Put your selves in the shoes of an ancient person. You see an object come from the sky that is flying around and glowing and what not. You, being
brought up in a society where religion rules everything and the earth is thought to be the center of the universe, will automatically think that these
weird anomalies are signs from GOD.
The special from the history channel also quoted some bible verses that were at least to me UFO encounters. Here is one of them
Ezekiel 1:15 - 1:17
Now as I looked at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature with it four faces. 16 The appearances of the
wheels and their and their workings was like the color of beryl, and four had the same likeness. The appearance of their workings was, as it were,
a wheel in the middle of a wheel . 17 When they moved, they went toward any one of four directions; they did not turn aside when they went

the only way an ancient man can explain a the disc shaped UFO is by comparing it to a wheel. This may sound a little far fetched to a lot of you, but
when you think about it so is a virgin birth.
I was raised Christian (Lutheran to be exact) and it was allways puzzling to me even as a little kid why Jesus was considered God. Well it makes
sense especially when you look at that painting at Jesusís baptism. I still love Jesus and believe in his message of love, kindness, forgiveness, and
compassion however I can not believe that he is God. The Most High is the creator of all things, even the beings that have obviously had a lot of
interaction with us humans. I just hope a lot of you will open your minds and hearts to what I have posted here. I did a lot of souls searching in
theses past couple of months. I just hope that some of you out there can see where Iím coming from. I will end this by says that Knowledge is power
and the truth will set you free. Peace yall
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reply posted on 11-4-2003 @ 11:40 PM by Byrd
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I think that you might gain additional insights by studying art and religion (formally... not on the Internet. There's a lot of disinformation and
misinformatoin on the Internet.)
I think they will open your eyes to a lot of things.
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reply posted on 12-4-2003 @ 09:38 AM by abstract_alao
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I think I did say that I saw a special on the history channel that was talking about this and they showed a number of paintings that had "ufo's" in
the back round. There are a number of ancient civilization that also show some link to outer space.
An ancient myan king (can't think of his name at the moment) had rocket ship carved on his tomb with fire comming out of the bottom. He had an image
of himself in the ship in it also. I learned this in high school.
I think that you might gain additional insights by studying art and religion (formally... not on the Internet. There's a lot of disinformation and
misinformatoin on the Internet.)
I think they will open your eyes to a lot of things.

So are you saying that the paintings that are posted above are false or doctered in some way.
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 12:49 AM by phoenix_cross
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jesus and god are two in the same. god is an idea from jesus. the term god is used to decribe any all powerful entity. now let's look at it this way.
the artists who painted these artworks thought that they were messengers or signs from god. is it possible that instead of a divine entity that god
actually was a spaceman or something that god met?
is there any records of THE god before the time of jesus? i dunno if there is or not. but each ancient civilisation, egypt had ra, or aton, romans had
zeus, greeks had their gods, and all of them resided in a heaven, or a land of the sky. do you think that meant that they actually came from space
which would appear so far away as to actually be thought of as a heaven. hell it could've even been luna which inspired the idea of heaven, who
knows? who cares. heaven isn't somewhere you go, it's your own mind, your own peace of heart. err. your own heart, and piece of mind.
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 12:16 PM by Protector
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So you think paintings from the middle ages and later are valid by the fact that people who lived hundreds of years later can pull a past life out of
their "behind" and paint what really happend? Interesting.
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 02:25 PM by abstract_alao
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So you think paintings from the middle ages and later are valid by the fact that people who lived hundreds of years later can pull a past life out of
their "behind" and paint what really happend? Interesting.

Well if that's the case the idea of the "trinity" was put together 700 years after the death of christ. The king james verison of the bible a 1000
years after the Death of christ.
What is intresting about these paintling is that these people had no concept of modern day "U.F.O's". So where did the idea of these disc like
images come from!??!
Well if you study ancient writings from sumaria (which predates the Old Testement by a couple of 1000 years) you will see that they also talk about
"gods" coming from the "heavens" and walking on the earth. So this means that these "gods" have been and still are interacting with
"civilization"
One more thing if you read about the isrealites when they were wandering the desert didn't it say that they were guided at night by "light's in the
sky".(if you want to I will look up the verse)
Well if you ask me there is a lot the the "average" person does not know about religion. Even the pope believes in U.F.O's. Mabey this is the
big secret that these secret socities are hiding from us. Who know's?!?! What i do know is that religion has been misunderstood and we should look
at it more openly rather than beign so closed minded( i.e my religion in right your religion is wrong)
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 02:31 PM by abstract_alao
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Originally posted by phoenix_cross
jesus and god are two in the same. god is an idea from jesus. the term god is used to decribe any all powerful entity. now let's look at it
this way. the artists who painted these artworks thought that they were messengers or signs from god. is it possible that instead of a divine entity
that god actually was a spaceman or something that god met?
is there any records of THE god before the time of jesus? i dunno if there is or not. but each ancient civilisation, egypt had ra, or aton, romans had
zeus, greeks had their gods, and all of them resided in a heaven, or a land of the sky. do you think that meant that they actually came from space
which would appear so far away as to actually be thought of as a heaven. hell it could've even been luna which inspired the idea of heaven, who
knows? who cares. heaven isn't somewhere you go, it's your own mind, your own peace of heart. err. your own heart, and piece of mind. 
phoenix_cross your are right. We have come a long way from the days of ancient Rome and babylon, however so many people remain closed minded and
accept what others tell them rather than going out and trying to figure it out on there own
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 03:57 PM by AF1
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There is a record of this GOD before Jesus. Just look at the Old Testament and the Jews. Who do you think Moses believed in?
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 04:05 PM by Osobad28
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Again, a misunderstanding of the truth.
It is clearly evident that back then, just as there are flying fish, there were flying jellyfish. The beams of light were actually their long,
stinging tentacles. They would float around on the updrafts, much like hawks, lower their tentacles and troll for those pesky believers. There is no
evidence of them as the ones who weren't able to drift back over sea and landed on earth merely dried up and blew away. 
I am definately a firm believer in flying jellyfish....Aliens pfft riiiight
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 06:33 PM by ModestMike
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Maybe its just me. But this looks like PS has been done.
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 07:17 PM by abstract_alao
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ok here's more
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mabey it's a big mushroom? Doubt it... Mabey it's jesus in his crib with mary and some angels....Most likely
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Two cave paintings dating back some 29,000 years ago
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Aborigine cave paintings, possibly 5,000 years old
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These photos depict figures found in Equador. Notice they appear to be wearing space suits. You can see a comparison photo with an Apollo astronaut.
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This is a cave painting (c.2000 BC) found in Fergana, Oezbekistan. According to American Ufologist Bob Dean, he believes it shows a space suited
astronaut holding a disc-shaped communication device. In the center of the drawing is a tiny figure with two antennae protruding from a helmet,
standing beneath a UFO emitting a plume of smoke
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~ UFO Coin, 1680 ~
French Medal apparently commemorating
a UFO sighting of a wheel like object in Renaissance France
Now back to Jesus
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"The Crucifixion" hangs above the altar at the Visoki Decani Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia ~ it was painted in 1350.
On either side of Jesus are a pair of Jetsons like skycars, one chasing the other ~ the pilots apparently working controls.
The leading craft is decorated with two twinkling stars, one reminiscent of national insignia on modern aircraft.
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Mary
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What are the strange, ethereal, almost surreal, objects floating above Mary's doorway?
Who is is peeking out from the doorway at the top of the alley stairs on the far left center?
Who is lying on the bed behind Mary ~ and why aren't the people in the street looking up?
What is the disturbance in the clouds, behind the UFO, exactly opposite the energy beam?
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a closer look...
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How about moses...
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In this painting on wood drawer from furniture kept at the Earls D’Oltremond, in Belgium,
Moses is depicted receiving the tablets of the Ten Commandments, with "flaming horns."
Several equally flaming objects are in the sky before him ~ date and artist are unknown.
Photoshop?!?!?!? 
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 09:50 PM by Illmatic67
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Again, a misunderstanding of the truth.
It is clearly evident that back then, just as there are flying fish, there were flying jellyfish. The beams of light were actually their long,
stinging tentacles. They would float around on the updrafts, much like hawks, lower their tentacles and troll for those pesky believers. There is no
evidence of them as the ones who weren't able to drift back over sea and landed on earth merely dried up and blew away. 
Please tell me your not serious
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 10:06 PM by Thomas Crowne
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LOL! No, buddy, I was just joking around. I did feel I had a little creativity going on there, though.
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reply posted on 13-4-2003 @ 10:09 PM by Illmatic67
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
LOL! No, buddy, I was just joking around. I did feel I had a little creativity going on there, though. 
lol, you had me going too.
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