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posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by dwaynehoover
reply to post by ChrisF231
 


And your point is?

Just becuase a government outlaws something doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.[/quote)

It does, however, make it THE LAW. You are familiar with law? Nations governed by laws and not men, et. al.?


I could see slavery as being outlawed as the right thing to do. Or fighting pits, were people or dogs die, as the right thing to do, becuase people are getting hurt. But when you outlaw a drug that actually pasifies [sic] your people, and makes them a little more peaceful, then maybe it is wrong.


So you're in favor of a drug that pacifies the popluace?


I read some articles about this. First it said that the Hague had outlawed potent forms of Cannibis. Weed with 15% thc and higher. And yes it did outlaw tourists from visiting the pot shops, making the cafes members only, holland members only.

My question is why? Why would they do this, when cafes are such a draw for people from around the world? Are they going to just rely on tulip sales and hookers now? Next they will probobly elliminate the brothels too, watch.


Eliminating drugs and hookers. Wow. Madness, yes?


Just becuase [sic] someone in the Holland government decided to impose their will, or to bow down to the demans [sic] of the global community, doesn't mean that what I said wasn't a good solution to the problems in the world.

The jails are past capacity. People are unfairly forced into plea bargains, where they do minamal [sic] jail time, and that is before they ever see a judge. They are made to believe that what they did was wrong, and a year or two in prison is the best thing for them. They do not go to trial, there is no jury. You are threagtened [sic] that you will have to pay for a jury if you ask for one, with a longer sentance [sic]. Why?


Never talk to the police, understand your rights under the constitution, graduate from high school so you're not a moron, and you can avoid this.

[qote] I know the reason you are so steadfast in your opinions, in fact it is that same steadfastness that halts the world, jams the jails, and ruins lives. Some poor kid smoking a joint, has to come out of jail a felon. Unhirable. In india, those people are called untouchables. Is that what you want to have happen to your kid, the first time they try a joint?


If you are unaware that smoking weed makes you un-hireable, then you're un-hireable because you're stupid. It's not the weed, it's that you're an idiot.


All over the world people can go to their local pharmacies and buy whatever it is that they need, without a prescription. they need antibiotics, they walk up to the counter. They need pain pills they walk up to the counter. No hassle. Here in my neck of the world. You have to go to the doctor. If you don't have insurance, it cost [sic] a hundred dollars (or whatever your doctor charges). Then they give you a presciption [sic], then you better hope, if you have insurance, that it covers the medication you need. If you don't have insurance, your screwed if there are no generic brands.


The problem is people abuse them and use them when they don't need them, and that makes for antibiotic-resistant strains of viruses/bacterial infections. I'm sure you're not a biologist or have a PharmD (I'm completely certain you're not), so the piece you're missing is that wide-spread use of antibiotics just makes for really really antibiotic-resistant bacteria. You know not of which you speak. Don't try.


Oh, and by the way. The same drug companies that charge horrible high prices for drugs, sells [sic] them to other countries that I just described for cheap. Man, keep defending that, its what you get paid for.


See my reply above.


Now as for the other things i mention that you glossed over to make your point, and tell me that i was wrong. Mexico has a problem, and only mexicans can solve that problem, or become slaves to it. Imagine how scary that would be. Imagine your government doing nothing to help you, becuase [sic] they are either bought off, or shills to a more powerful neighbor, bent on distributing cocain [sic] through the gettos [sic] of america in the form of crack, to break the will of its former slaves. Did you ever notice black people live where no one can see them? And if you do see them, it is with your window rolled up and your doors locked. Why is this?

Well F321 give me you one fact, and I will top it with ten reasons. Reason, now that is where you find the good questions.

Jesus christ!!!



Well, black people are in the fix they're in because of their culture and the democratic party. But that's another thread.





posted on Nov, 13 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by dwaynehoover
reply to post by ChrisF231
 


And your point is?

Just becuase a government outlaws something doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.[/quote)

It does, however, make it THE LAW. You are familiar with law? Nations governed by laws and not men, et. al.?


So you're in favor of a drug that pacifies the popluace?


Eliminating drugs and hookers. Wow. Madness, yes?


Never talk to the police, understand your rights under the constitution, graduate from high school so you're not a moron, and you can avoid this.

If you are unaware that smoking weed makes you un-hireable, then you're un-hireable because you're stupid. It's not the weed, it's that you're an idiot.


The problem is people abuse them and use them when they don't need them, and that makes for antibiotic-resistant strains of viruses/bacterial infections. I'm sure you're not a biologist or have a PharmD (I'm completely certain you're not), so the piece you're missing is that wide-spread use of antibiotics just makes for really really antibiotic-resistant bacteria. You know not of which you speak. Don't try.


See my reply above.




Well, black people are in the fix they're in because of their culture and the democratic party. But that's another thread.



I will just reply to all your prickishness at once.

First
i won't call you an idiot, even though you are an angry creep.

Second
Slavery was THE LAW, which I am sure you wish still existed. So every thing you worked so hard for and never shared, could be tended by your slaves, becuase you deserve it. Mr ME generation, made whole.

Third.
I am in favor of people making their own FREE choices without fear of pusacution. If smoking weed is your choice, so be it. Who cares if certain jobs wont hire you, it is your choice weather you want that job in the first place. Also, lets take a far worse drug, alcohol. How many people get tanked every weekend, and jump into their cars and kill themselves, families, ext? Ever know anyone who died drinking themselves to blindness, i am sure you have? So have many many others. Can you tell me who you know that died from pot?

Sometimes petty laws have no worth. the tree should never have been cut down to make the paper they were written on.

As for people abusing things, that happens when you tell people not to do something. If it was never made an issue, it would not be such a problem... I take that back, see above the slave comment. Someone like you would have been angry for messing up a good thing.


Forth
Amsterdam, very little crime, why is this? maybe becuase people do not feel the oppresion of zero choice apon their shoulders. Maybe they have learned to live with human nature, as apposed to a weird guilt filled christian nation that that tried to hide all it's "indignities" behind the curtain of purity.

what was that quote from 1984
"I hate purity
I hate goodness
i wish everyone was corrupt," I like that quote, don't completely agree with it, I actually like some of those things, especially goodness, but you wouldn't know about that. You would shot a guy in the head if he tried to take your parking spot, becuase it was yours!

Fifth
police are people too, how else do you get through to someone, except leading by example? Tell the truth. Sing it. Unless you have a joint in your pocket, then lie your ass off, becuase they will toss your ass in jail. they only enforce the laws. it is up to us to change them. Right, or did it not say that in the constitution? I don't know, I never graduated high school, so my reading comprehension is a little off.

Six
Did you really just say that black people are in the place they are in becuase of their culture? Really. And you teach physics? How, who the hell was smoking weed when they gave you the job?

I will try to teach you what they tuaght me in my GED night classes. Black people were stolen from their country Africa, and brought to the Americas so they could be put to work on the farms and plantations. They also did other jobs for free and a good beating, but I will try to keep this simple.

For a good hundred or so years, this practice of stealing people, uprooting them if you will, or as you call it, a down grade in carreer choice. Until half the country decided they didn't like the other half, and went to war with them. The North, outlawed slavery, the south fought for it.

Are you with me still? Good. I don't want my stupidity to rub off on you. The North won, yeah i know, one day you will get them back.

Turns out, that after slavery was abolished, people didn't want black people to be citizens. They still thought they should be slaves. Even though it was THE LAW. Damn, The white people, didn't want them in their schools, imagine what they thought about working next to them?

snoochie



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posted on Nov, 13 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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Let me guess... nothing came to fruition?

Just like the whole threat they had regarding wallstreet. Empty promises.



posted on Nov, 14 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
Anonymous Veracruz message to ZETA - English Mirror





link to original youtu.be...

edit on 31-10-2011 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)
edit on 31-10-2011 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)


The fact that the video is using garageband loops severely decreases the quality and legitimacy of the message to me. If they were so powerful then perhaps they could afford some better video and audio programs to record their messages. I am all for some of the things they are doing, but they need to remain dark and threatening. Darker than the darkness they confront.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 12:56 AM
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I have to appreciate the use of knowledge over brute force. In my opinion I believe what this group has done lately is just. I personally would rather see our federal resources go against internal issues like Human Trafficing and Child Pornagraphy. I'd rather see our military resources serve in countries like zimbabwe, Chad, Sudan, Sudan and C.A.R. Sorry getting off topic...

Back on topic...
If no one liked you no one would pay attention to you. (see above issues and countries). If you want to make your cause known or justify your beliefs in that cause you will need support. The support of the majority can best be obtained by paying attention to what everyone is ignoring.

My Attention
Anonymous has taken action against several organizations and companies this year. I would read an article on one website and maybe catch part of a conversation on another. A few weeks ago they went after the child pornography industry. That got my attention. This time it's against a Cartel group. This also got my attention.

Target and address the things that need changed with protest and signs. You'll get some attention but eventually perception will work against you and those that supported you will become annoyed. Target and address the things that need changed but are being ignored and you will win the majority support you want.

250 Million people in this country could probably care less about protest right now. But 299 Million people in this country will nod their head in approval to any group that targets, addresses and issues with Human Trafficking and Child Porn.

Just my two cents.
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