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When will China and US make WAR

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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 03:57 AM
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In China, a lot of people care about this question, in US, I think it's the same.But there can't be war in these two countries, if any, that will be a human disaster.

Though in the eye's of Americans, Taiwan is only an island, can play a role in keeping China within limits, but the actual condition is not so simple like that.

Who does not really want to make Taiwan independent ,?It's the 1,300 million Chinese people, but not Communist Party that holding power.In history, Taiwan had captured by the outside invader for several times, both the Dutchman and Japanese C but Taiwan has returned to the embrace of our motherland finally.

Present Communist Party regime is very passive, fall into the incomparably awkward condition. The social contradiction of China is very conspicuous, it is unfair to assign, the administration of justice does not have independent character , the authority of administrative organ drops, certainly the authority of Communist Party is dropping too, China is fermenting great social change and turmoil constantly .

China's nationalism are not produced without foundation, the real reson is they want to show a discontended feelings for the communist authorities,but they dare not to criticize the government face to face,Nationalism is only a false appearance, a channel to led off discontent. In fact, the ordinary Chinese are still very friendly to US.

It is the communist authorities divert one's attention to attack Taiwan, a good method to put down the social contradiction , but it seems at present that the opportunity is not ripe , everything is under control yet.

If US continues to support Taiwan's independence , or the true independence of Taiwan comes, if Communist Party left it alone , the furious overbearing tide will swallow up Communist Party.

Communist Party minds his own dominant position most, they can not see all these taking place . Then attack Taiwan becomes the best method to safeguarding themself , the result will be calamitous.

You know,the nuclear bomb's quantity and quality of China is a high secret , they can offer quantity keep in enough to keep degree of national security to want.

Attacking TaiwanC regardless of succeeding or failing, Communist Party will extends his own dominant position, the most key, it is that U.S.A. is most unwilling to see too.

Am I right?


[edit on 1-9-2004 by gejia021]




posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 05:14 AM
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You have to be Zcheng's roommate.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 05:56 AM
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Who is Zcheng?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 06:36 AM
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Just let Taiwan be free. Just like The U.S. won its freedom from Britain I believe Taiwan should win its freedom from China. What does China lose if they let Taiwan be free? You cannot compare the U.S. civil war to the atmosphere in China and Taiwan today because that war was over a balance of power. This war of Fear against the Taiwanese people is over pride. A free and independent Taiwan does not threaten mainland China.

But how does this have to do with the war on terrorism lol?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by gejia021

In China, a lot of people care about this question, in US, I think it's the same.But there can't be war in these two countries, if any, that will be a human disaster.
In the USA, most people don't even think of a war with China, we know that it would impracticable. The reason it appears to be on the minds of so many Chinese is that the Chinese Government has spent so many years reinforcing the thought of war with the USA through public information campaigns.


Originally posted by gejia021Though in the eye's of Americans, Taiwan is only an island, can play a role in keeping China within limits, but the actual condition is not so simple like that.

Who does not really want to make Taiwan independent ,?It's the 1,300 million Chinese people, but not Communist Party that holding power.In history, Taiwan had captured by the outside invader for several times, both the Dutchman and Japanese C but Taiwan has returned to the embrace of our motherland finally.
Then what about the millions of Chinese in Europe, Canada and the USA? It's not about their being a part of the motherland, it is that they are independant of the main Chinese thought as governed by political information campaigns. It is quite possible to have multiple Chinese states all independent of each other politically, yet united financially through interdependent trade agreements. This is not a social contradiction but a tool of society to advance through free thinking. One people does not mean one government or one ideology, in fact one governement and one thought can actually become very limiting on the development of a country as people are taught to conform rather than create.


Originally posted by gejia021Present Communist Party regime is very passive, fall into the incomparably awkward condition. The social contradiction of China is very conspicuous, it is unfair to assign, the administration of justice does not have independent character , the authority of administrative organ drops, certainly the authority of Communist Party is dropping too, China is fermenting great social change and turmoil constantly .

China's nationalism are not produced without foundation, the real reson is they want to show a discontended feelings for the communist authorities,but they dare not to criticize the government face to face,Nationalism is only a false appearance, a channel to led off discontent. In fact, the ordinary Chinese are still very friendly to US.
As most eople ni the USA are friendly toward the Chinese.


Originally posted by gejia021It is the communist authorities divert one's attention to attack Taiwan, a good method to put down the social contradiction , but it seems at present that the opportunity is not ripe , everything is under control yet.

If US continues to support Taiwan's independence , or the true independence of Taiwan comes, if Communist Party left it alone , the furious overbearing tide will swallow up Communist Party.

Communist Party minds his own dominant position most, they can not see all these taking place . Then attack Taiwan becomes the best method to safeguarding themself , the result will be calamitous.

You know,the nuclear bomb's quantity and quality of China is a high secret , they can offer quantity keep in enough to keep degree of national security to want.

Attacking TaiwanC regardless of succeeding or failing, Communist Party will extends his own dominant position, the most key, it is that U.S.A. is most unwilling to see too.

Am I right?

Yes, you are correct. The loss of power to the Communist Party is obviously of great concern to them, thay have had absolute power over the Chinese mainland for many years and power is something that people cannot part with easily. Power has benefits - even in the Communist Party - Party members have always lived "better" than non-party members, they have always had more "influence" than non-party members and the party members seem to reap greater rewards than non-party members. Taiwan has always been a threat to the Communist Party not because they are a Social Contradiction, but because the Taiwanese have shown that the Communist system does not work successfully. Many Taiwanese have become wealthy as factory and business owners and operators over the past fifty years, whereas in China, the Communist Party was the only source of reward for achievement for the people. Even now China is becoming a pluralistic society, the Party has recognized that capitalism is an asset in that it encourages people to work to improve themselves and by extension improve the country. Unlike the west, they need to develop a system of checks and balances that reign-in the over capaitalization of their markets which have allowed the financial abuses that continue in the western world today.


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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 11:28 AM
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Why would China and the USA ever be at war with each other? They are very good trading partners. Don't be fooled by the Taiwan situation it is simply a bargaining chip for China down the road......IMO there will never be a war over it. By now China must own a good chunk of US assets so declaring war would be illogical.



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