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Don't do it yourself. Get someone who know's what they are doing to assist you.
I've never encountered Satan or a spirit claiming to be Satan. Never had that named mentioned in numerous exorcisms and malevolent hauntings. Jesus has been frequently mentioned. Trying to explain who and what Satan and Lucifer are, well that's another thread.
Originally posted by Northwarden
Don't do it yourself. Get someone who know's what they are doing to assist you.
"We must rely on an expert", "We must rely on a specialist" ... It's not enough to know about something, or have our our spirituality intact, or to rely on God Almighty. It's not enough for the Christian to believe in God and rely on Jesus, or the Islamic to rely on Allah, or the person who claims they are Judaic to rely on God. If it relates back to the creator, then we are in safe hands I say. Angels have your back, so stop relying on fear tactics to say the matter is over-complicated.
One man can stand against a thousand, ten against ten thousand, if God is backing them. Do we need to be conversant in the entire works of Crowley in order to stand against a demon, is the same as asking "Do we need to understand a criminal's life philosophy, their desires, their inner workings and the complete plot picture they had planned in order to arrest them and throw them in prison"?
I see a lot of merit in what you've wrote here too, but I have a big problem with mixing good ideologies, and corrupt ideologies in the same umbrella, and expecting that hole-filled umbrella to keep off the rain.
For another timely comparasion, Allopathy in modern medicine pits the fear of the disease against the fear of the cure, and creates their industry from the outflow that results from such confusion. If you examine this (www.Whale.to for an excellant resource), can you honestly say you are not trying the same thing here?
And no, I haven't read about or been involved with the possession situations you've been involved in. That happened to you and the people you know.edit on 24-10-2011 by Northwarden because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lokdog
reply to post by DrJay1975
So your saying people who have never had a paranormal experience have weak spirits. Is your idea of a spirit the same as a christian soul? Are there souls damned or damaged, i'm just a bit confused by what your implying.
Originally posted by CherubBaby
reply to post by DrJay1975
So what are the inconsistancies you assume are in The Bible? Bring a lunch, your gonna need it..
Originally posted by JoyDreamer
Wow, you sure know quite a bit on this subject. Thankyou for taking the time to share this, it fills in some holes for me in regards to the spiritual world. I'd also love to here what you do think about Satan and Jesus as I grew up Christain but have drifted to being more spiritual. Your opinion on the matter would be interesting.
Originally posted by Ryanssuperman
From my experiences, which are many, I've come to the conclusion that whatever lives beyond the veil of our reality, is not confined to a certain religion. I believe these are entities that have lived here as long or longer than we have. For reasons I cannot explain, they aren't consistent in our society. To label them "demons" or "Angels" or "Ghosts, or "Jinn", is all based on your culture and your religion beliefs. They are one in the same, in my opinion.
Now, that being said, no holy book, or holy word such as "Jesus", will ever control or scare them off. They are being, as we are, and are not controlled so easily.
People need to take away preconceptions when it comes to the supernatural ... because in reality, we really "know" nothing. Everything is theory.