A song that discusses EVERYTHING we are discussing. Its ahead of its time.

Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
I know the definition of revolt. Its just you seemed to insinuate that all out violence is the product of all revolts. Sorry if I misunderstood.

No worries but I do defy you to provide proof where I even mentioned the act or word of even insinuated violence? Please? Please?

When revolts starts violently it ends in violence.

This revolt started peacefully......for the most part. That's the difference I see with our Occupy movement.

I don't condone people "fighting" the police no matter how wrong the officers are. Civil Disobedience speaks more volumes.

"I think that it's not a revolution of any kind and will only result in violence some how. Sad, but that's what I think."
This sentence is what led me to believe that all revolts/protests end up violent.

Ghandi got their "revolution" out of peace. Civil Rights movement won "civility" for minorities, gays, etc even though there is still racism and hate crimes. The violence came from ones trying to suppress those ideas even though they were peaceful.

I do completely believe this song is timeless. Most of The Beatles Music is timeless IMO. It doesn't matter when it was written. The ideas and logic in the song still hold true to current events.

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Nooooooo! This is wrong on so many levels! You're so misguided!

Haven't you realised yet that a revolution is exactly what They WANT to happen?? First they bring malcontent among the masses, then push for a 'people's' revolution and then They take control with a counter-revolution. Just look at what happened in Russia and Cuba.

'The Beatles' were an evil NWO product deliberately manufactured to bring hysteria to the previous calm, honour and dignity of society in the West. Lennon's 'Imagine' is another horrible example of Them planting the seed of Communism in people's heads. Then there's the sinister 'White Album' which was connected to the Manson murderers carving Freemason signs into Leno Labianca's stomach. Ugh! The Beatles were one of the worst things to happen to our society and yet people were oblivious and stupidly adored them.

You should be very wary of all modern music after WWII anyway. Understand this: "George Orwell said to his friend Arthur Koestler that history stopped in 1936. Koestler knew at once what Orwell meant and agreed".

Originally posted by 12voltz
Pipe dreams and a good riff.
What did this previous revolution get us?

our own country ?

really ?

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85

Originally posted by 12voltz
Pipe dreams and a good riff.
What did this previous revolution get us?

our own country ?

really ?

Your comparing occupy wallstreet with the American revolution?

really ?

Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
That's the thing though. This song isn't about revolt. True revolt would resort to violence. Its about us uniting. Which is what the Occupy movement promotes globally. A global union for what is just in the world. A global union against greed.

Gandhi and Martin Luther King showed us civil disobedience and our voice is how "revolutions" are created and accomplished.

About us uniting - I believe it's important to add that through our divisiveness we will find our unity. I'll present that from a grass-roots basis that ultimately rules us out of corporate umbrella and counts each soul as same weight among us, the created (as I'll contend), no matter what stage in our evolution we are. If we are all essentially seeking only a unity, we will cast too many tender differences aside, and dwell ourselves almost against the gravity of the multiple layers of divide and conquer strategies that seek to ensnare us, in a very painful positioning. Solutions? Stay the eye of your storm, not swept into the wake of it; don't sow the wind & reap the whirlwind in the first place; "surf others storms" whenever it's polite or possible and quell them where you may; strong fences make good neighbours, respect others boundaries, and keep your anarchy to your own consenting crew; always, always avoid collateral damage to others.

It's okay to be off their bandwagon, and appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy If we subdivide our cultures well, as we in free-will choose, we'll not need any over-controls once we prove we can successfully govern ourselves as human beings. We won't dive deep into hell places if we're astute, we won't create a thousand miseries, rather, we'll create solutions in an optimistic and positive faction, and we can dissolve disingenious anchors from a birds-eye view. Our power of observation and our ability to with-hold action are among our greatest gifts.

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85

Originally posted by 12voltz
Pipe dreams and a good riff.
What did this previous revolution get us?

our own country ?

really ?

Your comparing occupy wallstreet with the American revolution?

really ?

Actually you made the comparison to be fair

Well, I for one thought your post was brilliant...thank you! I just recently watched a two-part documentary about George Harrison (a Beatle that I didn't really know much about), and couldn't believe how "aware" he was. He was doing and discussing things that are fairly new to mainstream thinking nowadays. He seemed to be a very conscious soulful person, and he learned quickly that "having it all" didn't buy peace of mind/happiness. The Beatles do appear to have been ahead of the masses in certain spiritual aspects that are now being explored by more people today.
Sadly though, the only way we could truly have power, would be to completely stick together......as a human race....but we won't, because for too many years we have been identifying the "differences" between us, and not the sameness. We have been encouraged to separate....on so many levels.....that I think the SHTF is about the only scenario that will hurl us into the "hey, we're all in the same boat together" mentality.
Just my thoughts,
jacygirl

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

This is the part of the song that strikes the biggest chord with me.

Literally a week ago, I was telling everyone I know that we were could POSSIBLY be moving towards a One World Fascist Government, The Federal Reserve is evil, Obama is Hitler, FEMA camps yada yada yada. The whole works. My biggest reason for my urgency and worry was that people weren't paying attention. Well this Occupy Movement shows that people ARE paying attention more and more by the day. Its just the government screwed us over so bad everyone woke up.

One thing I do believe is that our government/corporations are greedy and corrupt. There's no denying that. The US of A that we live in ALREADY socialist. So the "socialist takeover" has occurred over time. Through sneaking in laws and mandates they have created the Socialist nation that we already are. When we have a million different Social Program government departments then its already socialism. So the crazy Hitler-esqe take over already happened over years worth of laws and mandates.

BUT, We are still the US of A and we have the ability to PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE and CREATE a PROCESS as to which these problems CAN BE ADDRESSED. I know some police are beating people but sometimes....sadly....they deserved it. So long as they are civilly disobeying they are going to be arrested. But thats why civil disobedience works.

People show up and civilly break the law because they are there for something they believe in. SO......IF.......the police got the orders to start raining bullets into the Occupy WallStreet crowd. We would have full blown Fascism and eradication of the population. More so if the police actually take the order and carry it out. But from what I can see the police are giving us more and more leeway so long as we don't break the law.

But of course we are going to keep breaking the law.......civilly. We continue this civil disobedience if the people who deserve to be in jail don't ever go.

Thats the best thing about America. Even though our government appears to be Fascist/Socialist they one thing that keeps them from FULL TAKEOVER is our Bill of Rights.

I'd say start worrying when freedom of speech doesn't exist anymore. It still exists. If it didn't, Occupy WallStreet wouldn't exist. Occupy the Nation wouldn't exist. The Civil Rights movement of the 60's wouldn't exist. Start worrying when you tell a cop "Obama is Hitler" and they arrest you for just saying it.

There is a difference when you're chanting "Obama is Hitler" in the middle of the street blocking cars. They're arresting you for standing in the street. Not what you're saying. But what you are saying.....and standing up for.......makes civil disobedience so effective.