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The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907.[
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
We lost whatever true freedoms we had in 1913.
The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907.[
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As the value of the dollar decreases, so do our so called "freedoms", anyone else notice that same trend?
Im not looking for a fight or anything...
Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo
Im not looking for a fight or anything...
lol, yes you are! The title alone suggests that you seem to believe that American's haven't lost any rights (or, more appropriately, we should instead be calling them freedoms) since the event of 9/11, and that We Americans continue to enjoy the same rights as existed before 9/11.
Ok, here's one for you: Can you board an Airplane today, without getting your sphincter checked for explosives, by the DHS contractor TSA?
Back before 9/11, Americans had the right to proceed forth in their lives free from the demeaning grope from a government employee. Not anymore.
NEXT....
Originally posted by gwydionblack
reply to post by Xcathdra
You certainly read the entire thing fast. Five minutes fast. And in that time you were able to formulate a post as well. Glad you really dug into it.
As far as not starting a fight, right.
I'm done here. Moving on.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
First I guess we have to assume we ever had rights to begin with. The fact that some text was put to paper doesnt really mean anything. The Bill of Rights creates a box wherein manufactured rights are permitted to exist which existence serves to cloud natural rights as they exist by default.
So, accepting that these manufactured and limited rights are our "only" rights I can comfortably say the first, second and fourth amendments have been pretty well beaten, butchered and regulated.
The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act (formally the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act) authorizes a dramatic funding increase for AmeriCorps and other volunteer programs, and the creation of new programs for seniors and veterans. It establishes a goal of expanding from 75,000 government-supported volunteers to 250,000, and would increase education funding and establish a summer volunteer program for students, paying $500 (which would be applied to college costs) to high-school and middle-school student who participate.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't stand on a soap box and rant my head off.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't slap a gun on my hip and travel freely.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't grow and harvest a plant.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't repair my roof.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't freely trade my property.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I can't freely trade my time.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
To start.
Originally posted by gwydionblack
reply to post by Xcathdra
Individual rights are my rights to do WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT if you want to get technical. You sound like you believe rights are given to us by government, but that is wrong. Rights are inherent in us from birth, not because someone says they are, but because they simply are. When an entity seeks to regulate, control, or take away those birth given "rights" then they are "taking them away" and we are "losing" them.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by gwydionblack
Actually there are no rightts violations contained in that.
Congress is the body that can decalre a war, so says the Constitution. Please point out in the Constitution where it states Congress must use the term declare war?
The TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and is governed under a different set of requirements in that regard.
There is no 4th amendment violation because the 4th amendment only applies to the government.
There is no 4th amendment violation because the security procedures are voluntary and not forced.
A person is guaranteed the right to travel within a state and across state lines. The manner of that transportation is not a guaranteed individual right. You can fly, walk, drive, crawl, roll, take a cab, have a friend drive etc etc etc.
That is not an individual right.
The remaining bulk are not guaranteed individual rights. They fall under the operation of the FEderal Government.
edit on 15-10-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)