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Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
reply to post by thehoneycomb
There is no double standard. We are merely returning what was stolen.
An elementary school teacher has instructed her class during recess to have fun, do whatever they wish during playtime, but to “share.”
Sounds reasonable. Everyone is doing as they wish; Sally is playing dodgeball, Jack is tossing a football, Clark is playing basketball, all is well. Morgan, the son of the school’s number one contributor, who also put the word in to hire the class teacher is sitting in the sandbox, bored. Sally and her sister are happily enjoying their game of dodge when here comes Morgan. He decides he wants to play with the dodgeball, so he takes Sally’s ball away. She protests, but Morgan replies “Share. Remember?” Sally realizes the teacher’s rule, and so she stops her protest. Morgan then decides he wants a basketball to go along with his kickball so he runs over to Clark and takes his ball as well. Clark is about to snatch the ball back when Morgan points to the teacher. Clark remembers the share rule and halts. Morgan is on a roll now and decides he wants a football. He obtains this ball as well, protected by the law of the land. He then spots another kid on the playground.
Tom is quietly sitting alone, tossing a baseball into the air and catching it. The ball is dirty, old, unremarkable, but carries sentimental value. This ball has been in Tom’s family for 60 years, and was handed down to him by his late father, but wouldn’t you know it, here comes Morgan, and he’s got his eye on Tom’s heirloom. In two shakes of a lamb’s tail Morgan has swiped Tom’s ball is making his way to the sandbox to stash his “earnings.” He’s fumbling along, so many balls he can barely walk straight.
Understandably, Tom is p!$$ed. He and Clark decide they’ve had enough of the system, Teacher’s rule or not, and so they walk over to the sandbox and begin to protest verbally. “Give me my ball back.” – “You have plenty.” Yada yada yada…. All of that (supposed) socialist talk that everyone seems to despise, but people forget where Morgan got all of those balls, but I digress. Tom and Clark, realizing that their words are having no affect, decide they out number Morgan, and so they merely push him over and take back the balls, "sharing" them with the rest of the class.
Do you see my point? You can’t actually steal what was stolen from you. You can either demand it back or take it by force. The point is, it belongs to you. And if the law of the land is designed to protect the thief, or if the thief owns the people who make the rules, then the rules no longer carry any weight. Maybe my choice of words were poor when I said “steal back”, but then again… I didn’t think I’d need to illustrate the obvious.
Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by FugitiveSoul
I can relate to you there, but completely destroying something that works (all be it, not perfect) is not the solution. Why not fix it instead?
Most of you know your rights given by the Constitution
Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəlɪzəm/ is an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or a political philosophy advocating such a system. As a form of social organization, socialism is based on co-operative social relations and self-management; relatively equal power-relations and the reduction or elimination of hierarchy in the management of economic and political affairs.
Socialist economies are based upon production for use and the direct allocation of economic inputs to satisfy economic demands and human needs (use value); accounting is based on physical quantities of resources, some physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time. Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on the principle of individual merit/individual contribution.
America was founded on and exists by entrepreneurship. This is our lifeblood. We are inventors, private businesses, local merchants, and patent filers. The ten largest banking firms in the world only focus on 18% of their efforts towards entrepreneurship. The rest of their efforts are focused on spreading the reach of global corps and self-financing, two areas that need no help, and two areas that are focused on taking money from these entrepreneurs and their livelihood. The system doesn’t work.
Originally posted by Cyberboiraves
reply to post by loveguy
Thank you for the link. Intresting proposal.
Act of 1871
The United States Isn't a Country; It's a Corporation! In preparation for stealing America, the puppets of Britain's banking cabal had already created a second government, a Shadow Government designed to manage what the common herd believed was a democracy, but what really was an incorporated UNITED STATES. Together this chimera, this two-headed monster, disallowed the common herd all rights of sui juris [a natural person possessing full civil rights -- you, in your sovereignty].
Congress, with no authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, a ten-mile square parcel of land. WHY and HOW did they do so? First, the Civil War was, in fact, little more than a calculated front with fancy footwork by backroom players. It was also a strategic maneuver by British and European interests (international bankers) intent on gaining a stranglehold on the coffers of America. And, because Congress knew our country was in dire financial straits, certain members of Congress cut a deal with the international bankers (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone's pie) . . .
There you have the WHY, why members of Congress permitted the international bankers to gain further control of America . . .
Then, by passing the Act of 1871, Congress formed a corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, shoved the organic version of the Constitution aside by changing the word 'for' to 'of' in the title. Let me explain: the original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers read: 'The Constitution for the united states of America.' [note that neither the words 'united' nor 'states' began with capital letters] But the 'CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA' is a corporate constitution, which is absolutely NOT the same document you think it is. First of all, it ended all our rights of sovereignty [sui juris]. So you now have the HOW, how the international bankers got their hands on THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
To fully understand how our rights of sovereignty were ended, you must know the full meaning of sovereign: "Chief or highest, supreme power, superior in position to all others; independent of and unlimited by others; possessing or entitled to; original and independent authority or jurisdiction." (Webster).
In short, our government, which was created by and for us as sovereigns -- free citizens deemed to have the highest authority in the land – was stolen from us, along with our rights. Keep in mind that, according to the original Constitution, only We the People are sovereign. Government is not sovereign. The Declaration of Independence says, "…government is subject to the consent of the governed." That's us -- the sovereigns. When did you last feel like a sovereign?