posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:55 PM
reply to post by juleol
I love the field of lucid dreaming, but I do not like how it wants to claim OOBE as lucid dreams, before we can be sure.
Here he has an outside element. It begins sleeting. Now if it wasn't sleeting outside at the time then it was definetly a dream, but if it was then
it's more likely to be an OOBE. Stuff like this happens that you wouldn't think about that can sort of reaffirm an OOBE for you personally. For me
it was a closed door that is usually left open, but in my OOBE it was closed and in real life I went to check and it was closed.
It really does seem to come down to belief. The people who believe it's an OOBE will have more OOBE type experiences (and you really have to believe
but it's more a confidence thing than an effort thing), if they think it's a dream it becomes a dream. OOBE's often change a person profoundly, Lucid
dreams do not affect people so deeply (they are more "harmless" which is one reason I am much more willing to talk about Lucid Dreams than OOBEs to
people that don't know about this stuff).
Also, a WILD usually starts with some visualizations, or maybe like a spiraling visual, or maybe walking down a hallway. An OOBE, you just come right
out of your body and there you are. Lucid Dreamers most often find themselves in their beds during a false awakening.
I don't think there is a solid answer on this, but I think there is so much to be argued for both sides. It's very easy to scientifically say, it's
only a lucid dream. Ultimately people have to have the experiences, educate themselves, and decide for themselves.
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