posted on Apr, 22 2003 @ 02:38 PM
As a vet, I have a few observations to make.
First of all, i am a pagan, not christian. I am relaly not against the religions of christianity and islam per se, except that too many fools
following those religions have tried to forcibly convert by the sword anyone who disagreed. So, niether religion has been pure and innocent, but has a
dark history of millions dying to spread each others ideals.
That said, its not like the muslims aint trying to convert us. When I was over in Saudi, the #ers actually tried converting me to islam. they assumed
i was a christian, and tried that spin on me. It didnt work. I do remeber, in thier little cultural center, little bulleteins about working to convert
the us soldiers to islam. So, muslims have thier own agenda too.
As for the chaplain, yeah, that is pretty sick. I can imagine, all those guys, just spent the last month with no showers, getting sand blasted from
sand storms, little water, smelling like septic tanks, and this guy with 500 gallons of nice clean water...tells them a bath can be yours...........if
u get baptized!!!! I am reminded of the bible story of Jacob and Esau, where esau, famished and hungry, is given a bowl of stew by his brother jacob,
who takes advatage of his brother Jacob, who only gives it to Esau if he swears to give jacob his birthright. Perhaps this minitser needs to re read
his own holy book.....or maybe he did....and thats where he got his sick idea. I can imagine, some soldiers will probably say screw this, and simply
wait off in hopes of a shower. others will, think well, i doont really have to convert, ill just say it, get my bath, and get the hell out... others,
will be emotionally weakened, homesick, and feeling disorientated, and will probably convert because after weeks of bloodshed, hate, and horrid
conditions, some one is offering them some sort of peace. they will accept "the love of jesus" just like many homeless and lonely people convert.
Hopefully, tho this asshole chaplian will get busted, tho its unlikely.
Id have to agree: the immigrants are iinvading Europe and spreading thier religion. Just because u dont pack guns and an air force dont mean u aint
out to conquer. Christianity conquered rome without a sword. I was stationed in germany, i saw it too, mosques all over slowly replacing traditional
germanic heritage. No one rails against this tho, after all, its only white people getting overrun, and we all deserve it, right?
Anyway, the christians will send missionaries to iraq, so what? iraq has christians there anyway. These evangelical christians, they are scary, the
Billy grahm types. I was raised in that path, they are really scary people. Thats why i left. they are rabidly pro israel, almost cultilke.......
thats what i think bush is into. Those are the same people that rever oral roberts, jimmy swaggert, pat robinson, ect...............scary scary scary.
they will be lucky if the equally rabid muslim fundies dont rip them apart.
It really pissed me off, in the army., to discover that christians could all go to thier services, but pagan faiths, at the time, were not recognized,
and we were denied a little time of our own for religious ceremony, mediation, or what not. The Buddists, which we had a few, felt the same. the
Muslims were given thier time as well. So anything of christian/Jerwish/Muslim persuiasion is honored, anyone else is ....not legit???