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Atheists revenge. Persecution of theists.

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posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Atheists revenge. Persecution of theists.

This was written in response to a theist crying about non theists attacking theists.

www.youtube.com...#!

Do you want a free ride to abuse whomever you like?
Is reciprocity not fair play?
Is fighting brain washing with brainwashing not fair?

To suggest that non theist should not fight what is demonstrably evil is to ask good men to do nothing while evil is allowed to grow.

Religions have persecuted the non religious and now bitch when thinking people show that faith without facts is for fools and that theists theologies do not hold water.

Faith is defined as a firm belief in something for which there is no proof.

Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.
Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.
Martin Luther

What is more valuable?
A belief that has nothing to back it up or a belief based on reason, logic and proofs?

As to non believers persecuting someone with belief, this does not happen from what I can see. Ridicule, yes. Humor, yes. Logic and reason, yes. Anger when illogical answers are given, yes.

I see this from the POV of a religionist in the non believer camp because I cannot abide by what other religionists are doing. Bottom line. Persecution is demonstrably a religious tool. Not a non believers tool.

Non theist engage theists, not for any negative reasons, but only from what most non believers see as their duty to their fellow man against divisive tribal forces, led by absentee Gods with demonstrably poor morals.

Do believers really believe that non believers let evils like you see below grow?

African witches and Jesus
www.youtube.com...

Jesus Camp 1of 9
www.youtube.com...

Promoting death to Gays.
www.youtube.com...

Not if atheists and non believers of all stripes maintain their social conscious and duty to their fellow man. That same social conscience that is lacking in far to many black theist hearts. Non theists are the ones fighting for the protection of children’s minds, fighting the denial of equality for women and fighting to end theist persecution of Gays.

If you as a theist do not recognize what non believers and those of faith who come against you do so for benevolent purposes, then your dogmas, indoctrination and brainwashing has blinded you the same way you want to blind your children. This is from one who is not an atheist but one of your own who has rejected your views for a more sane and moral one.

You are calling good evil and evil good as you embrace your genocidal son murdering God who, with his pocket full of miracles, could have taken the moral high ground instead of usurping Satan’s role as the most evil entity known to man.

Theist and religions are going down for the count. Sane and moral people are onto you so you may as well get used to crying and complaining and bitching because your days are numbered.

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

God said that the high would be brought low and the low high.
Religion has been flying high, drunk with the power of their tyrannical Gods and putting fear of a non existent God in in the hearts of sane men to quiet them. There are finally enough sane people around who will not stand by and let your evil grow and you will be put down soon just as you deserve.

Beware persecution for sure theists. Take heart though. The hearts of those you have persecuted for so long are not near as blood thirsty or black as yours. Those against you do not have tyrannical leaders. They follow men of integrity. A word that you can never apply to your pedophile protecting proctors.

You can thank non believing men and atheist for this and not your pathetic immoral Gods.

This from this religionist who is sickened by his own fellow religionists who have rejected logic and reason for the faith of fools and belief in fantasy, miracles and magic.

Regards
DL




posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Is fighting brain washing with brainwashing not fair?


Using logic and reason I have reasoned that this question is illogical and is the reason I dislike atheism and theism in equal regard.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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What do you call the person that doesn't care about either groups? Can we just put you all on an island somewhere and let you work out the differences...



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by PhantomLimb

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Is fighting brain washing with brainwashing not fair?


Using logic and reason I have reasoned that this question is illogical and is the reason I dislike atheism and theism in equal regard.


I have reasoned that you do not understand the meaning of the two words atheism and theism.

Everyone is one or the other. You either believe in a god/gods or you don't. If you don't or you don't know (agnosticism) you are an atheist. If you do than you are a theist. It has nothing to do with the personality of the person.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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There is only one logical outcome in the battle between Atheists and the Religious.

A fight to the death in the Thunder Dome!

Ready?......Go.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Again? Another believer making a thread about Atheism.

This is just getting stupider and stupider.
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posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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edit on 24-9-2011 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)


Are you posting this as an atheist or a believer? I dont get the angle youre coming from. Christianity is not a religion, its a guideline on how to live for the Lord and do his works. You are judging a faith by what corrupted men have done in the Lord's name. Jesus said you shall know his children by their works and you shall know false prophets by their works (paraphrased), do not make the mistake of stereo typing christians.
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posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
What do you call the person that doesn't care about either groups? Can we just put you all on an island somewhere and let you work out the differences...


Hm, curmudgeon. You labeled yourself wrong. It should be troll. if you could get rich off of being an ass you'd probably be a billionaire by now.

Sorry for getting off topic, as for the OP. Why bother wasting your time on them brother? They know enough about the Lord to seek him out. Thier unbelief is on thier own heads, beating them to death with the Word isn't going to do anyting for them, they are given over to the Repribate One.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Hm, curmudgeon. You labeled yourself wrong. It should be troll. if you could get rich off of being an ass you'd probably be a billionaire by now.

 



I voiced an opinion about two groups. Because I find their petty arguments riddled with semantics, unsolvable. Similar to the Middle East crisis. That does not make me a troll.

Just as you voicing your opinion of me does not make you one.

You are welcome to your own opinions...





posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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This video seems to be an attempt to victimize Christians because for so many years, Christianity has been the top brain-washer in the business and now, atheism is using some of their tools.


The man in the video speaks of brainwashing by books.... Hello? The Bible is the book that supposedly says all atheists and gay people are going to hell...

A rise in atheism isn't about persecution of theists, it's about the rise of logic, reason and common sense. It's about casting off myth as fact and dealing with REAL life.


Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Christianity is not a religion,


Now, that's a new one. I hadn't heard that one before.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Now, that's a new one. I hadn't heard that one before.
To be honest, it might be better to say something like, Christianity is not a a religion but all Christians belong to a religion.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
To be honest, it might be better to say something like, Christianity is not a a religion but all Christians belong to a religion.


Can you give me a couple examples of the religions that Christians belong to? Thanks.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by jmdewey60
To be honest, it might be better to say something like, Christianity is not a a religion but all Christians belong to a religion.


Can you give me a couple examples of the religions that Christians belong to? Thanks.
I don't think I worded that well.
Maybe I should have said, 'To be less dishonest, in a relative sort of way, it would be better to say. . .'

I was just making a negative criticism of people who use this saying (some sort of claim to non-religiosity) while being the most "religious" people on this forum.
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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
What do you call the person that doesn't care about either groups? Can we just put you all on an island somewhere and let you work out the differences...


I would call them people with no sense of morality or social conscience and you can do whatever you like with such misfits.

P S. Most would belong in theist groups.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This video seems to be an attempt to victimize Christians because for so many years, Christianity has been the top brain-washer in the business and now, atheism is using some of their tools.


The man in the video speaks of brainwashing by books.... Hello? The Bible is the book that supposedly says all atheists and gay people are going to hell...

A rise in atheism isn't about persecution of theists, it's about the rise of logic, reason and common sense. It's about casting off myth as fact and dealing with REAL life.


Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Christianity is not a religion,


Now, that's a new one. I hadn't heard that one before.


That is why I ignore his sorry ass. He does not know much of anything.

As to your comments.
Thumbs up.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Why do people care what other people believe. I'm an atheist and I don't tell people not to believe in god I don't even argue it. My friends don't try to convince me... except one who went through a break up and is now a born again christian.

The one reason I can see someone telling an atheist "you have to believe because god loves you, and jesus died for your sins" or whatever argument one wishes to use. So yeah the one reason I can think of someone trying to convince another of his/her beliefs is that their own beliefs are weak, and they need to enforce them on others so it appears they're strong.

my 2 cents.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Engafan
Why do people care what other people believe. I'm an atheist and I don't tell people not to believe in god I don't even argue it. My friends don't try to convince me... except one who went through a break up and is now a born again christian.

The one reason I can see someone telling an atheist "you have to believe because god loves you, and jesus died for your sins" or whatever argument one wishes to use. So yeah the one reason I can think of someone trying to convince another of his/her beliefs is that their own beliefs are weak, and they need to enforce them on others so it appears they're strong.

my 2 cents.



This is not about personal experience.

If you look up those links you will see atrocities that are going on today thanks to Christian beliefs.
This O P is about those atrocities and why atheist are showing their social conscience by fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.

If you have no social conscience, ----- not an accusation friend, ------ then join Christianity. They do not have any.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Plug the name of any group and the message in this quote still comes through.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
 

Now, that's a new one. I hadn't heard that one before.
To be honest, it might be better to say something like, Christianity is not a a religion but all Christians belong to a religion.


Christ is not a religion.

Christianity certainly is.

I doubt Christ would approve of what its become.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
That is why I ignore his sorry ass. He does not know much of anything.

As to your comments.
Thumbs up.

Regards
DL


I get the point you are trying to make.

Why Atheism needs to be part of it - - - is what I don't get.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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What about atheists who just want to be left alone by theists? Do they have to go to the island as well?




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