US warplanes violate Iran's air space: press report

Tehran, Aug 24, IRNA -- Five US warplanes entered Iran's air space last Thursday night from the southwestern Shalamcheh border and flew over the city of Khorramshahr for a while, press reports said Tuesday.
According the Persian daily Seday-e Edalat, 'the jet fighters which flew at high speed and altitude, then headed to the Arvand River'.

"They flew at a height of 10 kilometers and maneuvered over Khorramshahr for a while," the paper said.

"While the objective behind the fighters' violation of the Iranian air space is not known yet, some military specialists believe such moves are aimed at assessing the sensitivity of the Islamic Republic's anti-aircraft defense system," it added.

It said military and air force officials had refrained from commenting on the incident when contacted.

Iran has been wary of the occupation forces' presence on its doorsteps in Iraq and carefully watched their movements.

Tehran, while opposing Iraq's invasion, took a position of `active neutrality' at the time of the attack.

In June, Iranian naval guards seized three British boats with eight crew in the country's territorial waters in Arvand river, which borders Iraq.

The servicemen, two Royal Navy sailors and six Royal Marine commandos, were later released.

Their equipment reportedly consisted of personal weapons, radios and navigation equipment, including echo sounders to measure the depth of the water, global positioning systems to identify the exact position and up-to-date maritime charts.

The Times newspaper has said that Iran had agreed only "in principle" to return the boats, but that there had been little progress about the manner in which they would be given back.

Ooooppssss....


Hmmm....let's piss the Iranians off, watch a terrorist attack happen in the US, blame Iran, and invade them. Putting another piece of the NWO puzzle into place. A nation not with America, must be invaded by America.

If Iran did this over US airspace, the US would consider this an act of war...

Originally posted by Samiralfey
If Iran did this over US airspace, the US would consider this an act of war...

No doubt, but I would want more sources than the IRNA before I start commenting on it.

It seems like they are trying to provoke a response from Iran to justify a 'retaliation'.

Originally posted by AceOfBase
It seems like they are trying to provoke a response from Iran to justify a 'retaliation'.

I actually suspect that, but I simply want more conformation.


Remember the Maine!
Or the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident



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[edit on 25-8-2004 by FredT]

All I have to say to this is who cares? We americans get what we want and do what we want, And If some one stands in our way we declare war and blast their arses to hell.

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by AceOfBase
It seems like they are trying to provoke a response from Iran to justify a 'retaliation'.

I actually suspect that, but I simply want more conformation.


Remember the Maine!
Or the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident

Or Operation Prairie Fire in Libya.
It's a tactic that's been used many times, probably by many countries.

There aren't many links on this story so far though.
The few that exist are quoting the same source.
Persian Journal

Xinhuanet

Boston, Aug 24, AP -- Five Iranian warplanes entered US air space last Thursday night from the southeastern Massachusets coast and flew over the city of Cambridge for a while, press reports said Tuesday.
According the Boston Globe, 'the jet fighters which flew at high speed and altitude, then headed to the Charles River'.

"They flew at a height of 30,000 feet and maneuvered over Cambridge for a while," the paper said.

"While the objective behind the fighters' violation of the US air space is not known yet, some military specialists believe such moves are aimed at assessing the sensitivity of the Americans' anti-aircraft defense system," it added.

It said military and air force officials had refrained from commenting on the incident when contacted.

The US has been wary of the occupation forces' presence on its doorsteps in Bermuda and carefully watched their movements.

Washington, while opposing Bermuda's invasion, took a position of `active neutrality' at the time of the attack.

In June, the US Coast Guard seized three boats boats with eight crew in the country's territorial waters in St. Lawrence river, which borders Canada.

The servicemen, two Iranian Navy sailors and six Iranian Marine commandos, were later released.

Their equipment reportedly consisted of personal weapons, radios and navigation equipment, including echo sounders to measure the depth of the water, global positioning systems to identify the exact position and up-to-date maritime charts.

The Boston Globe newspaper has said that the US had agreed only "in principle" to return the boats, but that there had been little progress about the manner in which they would be given back.

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Puts a different light on things, nay?


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Originally posted by SpockO_o
All I have to say to this is who cares? We americans get what we want and do what we want, And If some one stands in our way we declare war and blast their arses to hell.

With that attitude US would make a lot of enemies fast. No, the US has no right to violate other countries airspace. If they violate again, I hope? that some of those aircrafts will get shot down, that would maybe teach them a lesson.

Before everyone starts blathering about US imperialism, let us consider the source of this information.

here's the bbc monitoring report, from what i think is a seperate iranian source:

BBC Monitoring Newsfile
(c) 2004 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.


Tuesday, August 24, 2004


(correction) Agency says US warplanes violated Iranian airspace on 19 August

Text of report by Iranian Baztab web site on 23 August (correcting report's date, corrected version follows)

Baztab correspondent has reported that five American warplanes entered Iran's airspace last Thursday night [19 August] from Shalamcheh border [southwestern region of Iran].

On the basis of the same report, the warplanes were flying at high speed and altitude and, after entering Iran's airspace, headed to the Arvand River [or Shatt al-Arab].

Baztab correspondent added: The warplanes flew at a height of about 10 kilometres and for a while flew over the city of Khorramshahr.

While the objective behind the fighters' violation of the Iranian airspace is not known yet, some military specialists believe such moves are aimed at assessing the sensitivity of the Islamic Republic's anti-aircraft defence system.

It is necessary to point out that Baztab correspondent's efforts to obtain more information from the general staff headquarters of the armed forces and Islamic Republic of Iran's airforce have remained fruitless and the relevant authorities refused to comment.

Source: Baztab web site, Tehran, in Persian 1057 gmt 23 Aug 04

Taibunsuu do you have brother here nick name WestPoint23?
Cause you two have many things in common.

Originally posted by SpockO_o
All I have to say to this is who cares? We americans get what we want and do what we want, And If some one stands in our way we declare war and blast their arses to hell.

You know, its people like you who made 9/11 happen. We should put the blame on you and people like you not Bin ladan.

Originally posted by persian
Taibunsuu do you have brother here nick name WestPoint23?
Cause you two have many things in common.

Are you kidding?
They are total opposites.

He changed the words around to make it seem like Iran violated US air space in order to elicit empathy for the situation that Iran is facing.

He's basically saying, how would you feel if they were doing it to us?

At least that's what I got from it.

Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by persian
Taibunsuu do you have brother here nick name WestPoint23?
Cause you two have many things in common.

Are you kidding?
They are total opposites.

He changed the words around to make it seem like Iran violated US air space in order to elicit empathy for the situation that Iran is facing.

He's basically saying, how would you feel if they were doing it to us?

At least that's what I got from it.

Hmm in this case I am wrong, I thought he is trying to be funny.

When are you people going to figure out that the US is already at war w/ Iran....the battleground is Iraq.

Originally posted by persian
You know, its people like you who made 9/11 happen. We should put the blame on you and people like you not Bin ladan.

Asinine comment there...
The people who determine in their hearts to commit horrid acts of violence are the ones responsible for them - don't try to put off the blame to "people like you"... Responsibility in in the hands of those who commit the act. Nothing more.

If Iran did this over US airspace, the US would consider this an act of war...

They'd have been smoked as soon as they breached it, hehe...

While I expected increased posturing towards Iran, this is going further and faster than I thought it would...pretty damn spooky...(and reeking of sheer incompetence...)

Interesting that they weren't fired on...

It was as it appears an attempt to root out the Anti Air System. They went in there on purpose to get "painted" and to respond back with the details of the SIG-INT.

This will help war planners co-ordinate what types of armorment and Signal Jamming they will need when they have to attack Iran.

There is absolutley a "showdown" in the planning stages.

Considering 4 individuals that have been under arrest since 2001 from Iran, have been recently released from custody and of all things that were arrested under the anti terrorism act, but in their case because they were PRO IRANIAN REBELS that were aiding and planning in the overthrow of the current Iranian Regime. Funny thing is that the US is not exporting these individuals which leads me to believe they are being used by the US goverment for Intel purposes in their strategic planning for Iran.

I will post the link to the story about the 4 Iranians in a minute