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The illuminati are the religious extremists

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Would a Christian openly hate homosexuals and want war with Muslims?

Real Christians want to feed the poor and accept all, so how does bigotry fit into this?

Would a Jew abuse the term anti-semitism to the point where it no longer means anything--and then keep saying it?

Real Jews would be sensitive to their history of persecution and wouldn't bring this fact up at every moment of their day.

Would a Muslim kill innocent people knowing it will only make people hate Islam?

Muslims make vows to not make sacrilege of their religion, so why would they intentionally tarnish the view of their religion?

Imagine if the CEO of a corporation openly hated homosexuals, or called all of his opponents anti-semitic, or blows up innocent people, no one would like that particular corporation. So why is it that when a "religious" person does it, suddenly they speak for the entire religion? The media and culture has convinced us that 1 person who acts stupid can speak for 2 billion Christians, or 15 million Jews, or 1 billion Arabs.

We know 9/11 was a false flag, so I am proposing that all extremist religions are false flags to scar the image of that organization. I mean seriously, how else could someone who really cares about the Catholic church and their history allow pedophilia to occur? Wouldn't they leave at that point? Doesn't this make more sense that some outside force is trying to take it down from within?

But, people are so easily swayed by the "evil" of the extremists, that they think this type of cartoonish insanity is actually real, and never do they suspect that it is a false flag intentionally designed to make them hate a particular group of people. This is also used, for example, on democrats to hate republicans, so that they view republicans as racist bigots just because the KKK are bigots and "proud" of the south. In the same way that a republican is taught to hate democrats because they are "proud" of living off welfare and being a leech. Would someone really be proud of these things? No, obviously not, and these are like false flags of their own groups, to make people hate that group. But really it is just tarnishing the image of that group.

So obviously the illuminati are not of a particular religion, they rather infiltrate religions to bring them down from within. They are covertists, they preach goodness but they mean evil. They are Satanists.


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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
Would a Christian openly hate homosexuals and want war with Muslims?

Real Christians want to feed the poor and accept all, so how does bigotry fit into this?

Would a Jew abuse the term anti-semitism to the point where it no longer means anything--and then keep saying it?

Real Jews would be sensitive to their history of persecution and wouldn't bring this fact up at every moment of their day.

Would a Muslim kill innocent people knowing it will only make people hate Islam?

Muslims make vows to not make sacrilege of their religion, so why would they intentionally tarnish the view of their religion?

Imagine if the CEO of a corporation openly hated homosexuals, or called all of his opponents anti-semitic, or blows up innocent people, no one would like that particular corporation. So why is it that when a "religious" person does it, suddenly they speak for the entire religion? The media and culture has convinced us that 1 person who acts stupid can speak for 2 billion Christians, or 15 million Jews, or 1 billion Arabs.

We know 9/11 was a false flag, so I am proposing that all extremist religions are false flags to scar the image of that organization. I mean seriously, how else could someone who really cares about the Catholic church and their history allow pedophilia to occur? Wouldn't they leave at that point? Doesn't this make more sense that some outside force is trying to take it down from within?

But, people are so easily swayed by the "evil" of the extremists, that they think this type of cartoonish insanity is actually real, and never do they suspect that it is a false flag intentionally designed to make them hate a particular group of people. This is also used, for example, on democrats to hate republicans, so that they view republicans as racist bigots just because the KKK are bigots and "proud" of the south. In the same way that a republican is taught to hate democrats because they are "proud" of living off welfare and being a leech. Would someone really be proud of these things? No, obviously not, and these are like false flags of their own groups, to make people hate that group. But really it is just tarnishing the image of that group.

So obviously the illuminati are not of a particular religion, they rather infiltrate religions to bring them down from within. They are covertists, they preach goodness but they mean evil. They are Satanists.


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Nice thread, certain people are just here to hate. Any excuse to hate religion because in order to follow you're faith correctly you need to be honest with yourself and others. A lot of people want freedom and a good society but they don't want to do something about it. It's obvious a broken person who turns to religion will 99 times out of 100 become a better person because of it so what really can people hate religious people for. Fear, fear of exposure of sins and of what's inside



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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al-CIAda is the epitome of what you describe.

you false flag a whole darn region (mideast) and religion (islam) and desperate greed/jealousy (oil)

all it takes is provide funs/munitions to fund a coupe and install an extremist buddy of your choice & pay him handsomely (ie, osama)

round up a random few muslims and threaten to kill their families, so put them on planes

and shock and awe the world.

rinse & repeat as necessary to keep terrorizing the world thru your arbitraty scapegoat.

self glorification.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Any religion that is exclusive and elitist (the chosen) are based in THE LIE.

It will become even more apparent as the light begins to shine on the darkness.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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Would a Christian openly hate homosexuals and want war with Muslims?

Real Christians want to feed the poor and accept all, so how does bigotry fit into this?


Westboro Baptist Church would disagree, and they would argue that they were the "true" Christians.


Would a Jew abuse the term anti-Semitism to the point where it no longer means anything--and then keep saying it?


Yes. Some use to it denigrate a particular political position, or as a rebuttal to an argument in regards to Israel/Palestine. (i.e. Zionists often use claims of anti-Semitism as a response, when there is no "anti-Jew" or even "racist" intentions of the party or person they are opposing.)


Real Jews would be sensitive to their history of persecution and wouldn't bring this fact up at every moment of their day.


Define "real"....


Would a Muslim kill innocent people knowing it will only make people hate Islam?


The Koran wages Holy wars on Kafirs, a Holy war to make Allah universal, whether through violence, rapid reproduction, they care not who "hates" Islam, they fight for the cause of Islam as Allah demands in the Holy scriptures.


Muslims make vows to not make sacrilege of their religion, so why would they intentionally tarnish the view of their religion?


Because they don't care, Look at Islamic militias.




Imagine if the CEO of a corporation openly hated homosexuals, or called all of his opponents anti-semitic, or blows up innocent people, no one would like that particular corporation. So why is it that when a "religious" person does it, suddenly they speak for the entire religion?


It's not that they speak for all members of that religion; it's that they are inspired by religious scriptures of fascism or sinister, uptight dogma....

Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Yes, some Christians are NOT homophobic, they openly reject the scriptures they base their religious views on. As do with "Moderate" Jews and Muslims, Where "moderate" relates to a "vague faith, whereby the person is cherry picking the scripture.


The media and culture has convinced us that 1 person who acts stupid can speak for 2 billion Christians, or 15 million Jews, or 1 billion Arabs.


Quite the opposite is true; the media has placed an emphasis on "multiculurism", especially after the events of 9/11. President Obama (and Blair and Cameron, in my country) have repeated multiple times that it was NOT an Islamic, or religious attack. Last time i checked, Jihad was an Islamic concept.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Westboro Baptist Church would disagree, and they would argue that they were the "true" Christians.


This is exactly my point, just because someone says they are the "true" Christians doesn't make it so. And the Westboro baptists are hardly the true Christians, they are one group, yet you are willing to believe them when they say they are the true Christians? They are obviously frauds to make Christians look bad and to push the limits of free speech.
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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Hate cannot dispel hate. Only love dispels hate. A negative is cancelled by a positive in addition and subtraction. Life is the same. In multiplication, a negative cancels a negative, not because more negative is good, but because a second negative pays a debt and walks the negative back to equilibrium.

In mathematics, if you owe three people $10, then you are negative $30 (3 X -10 = $-30). If they then say, "We forgive you for this debt because we love you," then you are free from that debt by another negative. You have just had three subtractions of -10, making you three positives of $10 (-3 X -$10). Your debt is -30 + 30 = $0

We are all sinners, even homosexuals. Sin represents a negative in life because it misrepresents the positive design in nature. This is true for any sin, not just that of adultery or other sexual sins. Why? Negative harms others and creates debt instead of surplus. A traditional family creates the environment that God intended. Positive and positive makes more positive.

We are all sinners, not just the homosexual. We are all in need of forgiveness for the debt we create in the world. As indicated above, debt is cancelled by two negatives. We create the debt with our sin. Jesus died on a cross (negative) to pay our debt by cancelling it out, even for the homosexual. Do we continue to sin if we take on the name of Christ? No. Taking the lords name (Character) in vain is a sin and does not show the fruit of salvation. A life must be changed and repentance is turning from sin. All sin, not just some.

Can we get to heaven by works? No. Our works are a product of our salvation. Love is the ultimate product of a life saved from destruction.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
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Westboro Baptist Church would disagree, and they would argue that they were the "true" Christians.


This is exactly my point, just because someone says they are the "true" Christians doesn't make it so. And the Westboro baptists are hardly the true Christians, they are one group, yet you are willing to believe them when they say they are the true Christians? They are obviously frauds to make Christians look bad and to push the limits of free speech.
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I explained this; many people reject their own religious scripture, which creates a "vague" faith.

Some Muslims don't declare Jihad on all non-believers, despite their scriptures demanding it. Some muslims don't think stoning a women is a humane punishment, despite their scripture insisting it is.

Some Christians are not homophobic, despite their scriptures being explicitly homophobic, including the New Testament; whereby Jesus agrees with the laws and prophets of the Old Testament.

See in my last post:-


It's not that they speak for all members of that religion; it's that they are inspired by religious scriptures of fascism or sinister, abhorrent dogma.... .


The reason that they are "inspired" is that they believe the scriptures are divine, the word of God, rather than the childish words of man gone by.




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