IDF general: Likelihood of regional war growing

Originally posted by ALF88

Why is it that all countries have to be compliant and Israel does not?

Iran just offerend to give IAEA full insight a few days ago, they want the sanctions lifted though. Sounds like a fair deal to me, what do you think.

By the way the EU rejected that.

Because iran, syria, hezbollah and hamas want israel wiped off the face of the earth. Israel simply wants to protect its jewish heritage and people with half a century of struggle to what it had owned on and off for nearly three millenia.

Its not as complex as the warmongers want it to be!

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Because Israel is not a signatory to the treaty. Why should they comply with a treaty they have not signed?

Wrong question

Why should a non-signatory create so much war propoganda about a compliant signatory and their nuclear program?

Iran >>>>>>>>>> Israel

Because they are not compliant. They are pursuing nuclear weapons. Israel knows that they will likely be the first or second target. So, yeah, they bring it to the world's attention.

And here is the latest news...

Israel regards Turkey threat as 'grave'


ISRAEL'S intelligence minister has described as "grave and serious" a threat by the Turkish prime minister to send warships to escort aid vessels trying to reach the Gaza Strip.

www.adelaidenow.com.au...

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


Wow
Calling wolf again?

But here's the BIGGEST PIECE OF BS!!!!!!!!!

"Iran has not abandoned its nuclear program. The opposite it true; it continues full steam ahead," he said.

How can a non-signatory with over 200-300 Nuclear Warheads complain about a signatory fully compliant with UN's IAEA that might or might not have one warhead?

Not to mention that nation with over 200 warheads has a doctrine called the Samson option. The Samson option is a 'strategic' deterrent in the event Israel is destroyed, she has her nuclear warheads aimed at every major city in the Middle East and Europe. Basically, if Israel goes down, its gonna take the world with it.

So....Will you trust Israel with nukes who opening admits it will destroy the world if its threatened with destruction, or a """""""con-artist""""""""" (I quote that because he isn't openly a bad man, so either he's truly a good man or a con artist) with a handful of nukes?

The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1] Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as "nuclear opacity." This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.[2]

en.wikipedia.org...

Just goes to prove that Israel is just as radical as the Islamic Brotherhood or Hamas.

So your saying that because Israel has acquired nuclear weapons, after numerous attempts by its Muslim Arab neighbours to destroy it and wipe it off the map, that a last resort plan that it has in which it's nuclear weapons would be used if it lost a war and was conquered by the Arabs, is the same as lunatic islamic fundamentalists?
Yeh ok.

The fact that Israel has nuclear weapons, and has a plan that would see them used as a last resort, has ensured that it's hostile Muslim Arab neighbours have not attacked it again. not directly anyway. They now resort to using terrorist organizations against Israel. And Israel has even managed to curb their activities.

And guess what, those hostile Arab states are still in existence.

If Israel did not have nuclear weapons, do you think Israel would exist today? At the very least it would be in a state of constant warfare with it's hostile Muslim Arab neighbours.

Put things into perspective instead of just towing the typical anti-Israeli propaganda.


Oh, and btw, the USA, Russia, France, UK, also have plans where their nuclear weapons would be used as a last resort retaliation. They also have first strike plans.

It's called a deterrence for a reason, you know.

The latest news..things are heating up.

There's a fleet of about ten Turkish warships between some Greek islands Kastelorizo and Rhodes.
Unconfirmed reports of massive electronic jamming/attacks taking place in the region.
Israel is monitoring Turkish military movements as is Greece.
Israel & Greece have invoked their pacts.
The drilling platform set sail AHEAD OF SCHEDULE for the Cypriot exploration area. It has now arrived and early next week drilling will begin officially. This was done ahead of schedule as Erdogan was in Egypt. A tactical ploy by Israel-Cyprus-Greece.
As Erdogan was in Egypt, Israel sent a group of fighter jets right to the edge of it's airspace with Egypt, and then after lodging flight papers with Cyprus, flew through Cypriot airspace and the Cypriot FIR right to the edge of the Turkish airspace. BIG message being sent to Ankara.

Israeli-Greek defense pact invoked versus Turkish naval and air movements
September 15, 2011 | Filed under: Geopolitics

Israel and Greece have invoked the mutual defense pact they signed secretly only 12 days ago in the light of heavy Turkish sea and air movements in the eastern Mediterranean. DEBKAfile’s sources report that this was decided in a long nocturnal phone conversation Wednesday night Sept. 14 between the Israeli and Greek prime ministers, Binyamin Netanyahu and George Papandreou, and at Israel’s expanded cabinet of eight, which was called into session over the Turkish threat to its off-shore oil and gas rigs.

The Greek Prime Minister added to the information recorded so far on Turkish fleet movements in the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas. He was particularly concerned by the observation flights suddenly increased in the past 48 hours over the Greek island of Kastelorizo in the southeast Mediterranean just two kilometers from the Turkish coast. Those flights are escorted by Turkish combat jets.

Athens fears a Turkish attack on the island, whose population is fewer than 1,000, and an attempt to damage or seize it. Israel suspects that a Turkish attack on the Greek island will be the signal for Turkish military aggression against its oil and gas platforms located in the Mediterranean between Israel and Cyprus. Papandreou said the Turks are capable of surprise attacks on additional Greek islands near the Turkish coast.

Ankara would be acting on the pretext that Israel and Cyprus have no right to mark out and exploit the gas and oil zones of the eastern Mediterranean – a fuel-rich region known as Block 12 – without the consent of Turkish Cyprus (the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus – TRNC). Turkey also backs Lebanon’s complaint that Israel is robbing it of its natural resources. Talks between Lebanon and Cyprus to resolve this issue broke down. Beirut refuses any discussion with Israel.

Neither Jerusalem nor Athens has disclosed in what way they have invoked the new defense pact.

DEBKAfile’s military sources surmise that in the first stage, Israeli navy and air forces are to be posted at Greek Mediterranean bases. The two intelligence agencies are already sharing input.

Up until now, Israel could only respond to a Turkish threat from its own borders. With a presence at Greek military bases, Israel will be able to operate from the rear of Turkish forces in the event of an attack by those forces in the Mediterranean.

Monday, Sept. 12, Ankara dictated conditions for Israel to obey in order to keep its navy afloat free of Turkish aggression:

1. Israel vessels are prohibited from taking action against Turkish ships heading for the Gaza Strip. Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has declared “null and void” the UN report confirming the legality of Israel’s blockade of Gaza.

2. Israeli warships crossing the 12-mile line bounding its territorial waters will be challenged by Turkish warships, which are instructed to approach them to within 100 meters and “disable their weapons.”

This threat covers not only shipping bound for Gaza but also Israel’s oil and gas drilling platforms which are more than 60 miles out to sea.

Israel’s political and military spokesmen have been trying hard to downplay the Turkish menace. On Wednesday, Sept. 14, they brushed aside reports of Turkish naval and air movements in the eastern Mediterranean. After the cabinet of eight’s meeting, the official line was that Israel is practicing “restraint in contrast to Turkish wildness” and they should be given time to cool down. In any case, the US and NATO were closely monitoring the crisis Ankara is generating with Israel, Greece and Cyprus, and won’t let it degenerate into Turkish military action.

But both Israel and Greece appear to know better: They decided to invoke their mutual defense pact – not before obtaining a green light from Washington – because they believe the Turkish threats indicated by its military movements are real and tangible.

www.defencegreece.com...

Drilling has started in Cyprus.
No Turkish ships in sight yet.

But the Turks are planning on exploration in Greek and Cypriot waters as a retaliation.

They'll get a big surprise especially if they enter Greek waters or the Greek EEZ.
Political pressure will probably be brought upon Turkey by the EU etc if they do something silly in Cypriot waters or the EEZ.