The Koch Konspiracy. Why liberals love to hate the Koch brothers

Like you, I am also mad at the Koch brothers, but not because they are trying to bankrupt social security, that actually makes me happy, but because they are a fall guy to take all the blame for the economic collapse, which should be blamed on people like Soros, however the liberals say how the Koch brothers have more funding than Soros, impossible considering Soros is a Rothschild agent. So what's going on here, someone trying to make the Koch brothers seem like wealthy texan oil capitalists who are going to take away their precious social security ponzi scheme? Sounds like a Koch Konspiracy to me.

Let's not forget that the liberals are into dirty jokes, especially jokes involving Weiners. Let's all take a moment to remember just how long the Weiner joke lasted, just how long they could keep screwing around with his name, how they never seemed to tire to insert his hilarious name at any opportunity, all the while the Bilderberg meeting gets no attention whatsoever while the circus media penis show is going on. Smoke screen. Just like the Koch brothers whose names also suspiciously sound like "kock"

However, the real proof though is the agenda behind those who preach of a Koch Konspiracy. It's Communism! The working class must rise above the capitalist class while the true power (Soros) plays the strings from behind. Sure, tax the rich, just not the super rich. Foolish Marxists. We can see through your plan.

7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces - Socialists, Anarchists, Communists - to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our SOCIAL MASONRY. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite - in the diminution, the KILLING OUT OF THE GOYIM. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.

-Protocols of Zion

Only women and homosexual men love the Koch.

Originally posted by JeffMagnetic
Only women and homosexual men love the Koch.

well that's great and all that you love Koch but this thread really has nothing to do with professing your love to the Koch brothers.

Poor guy. It is a shame the way some people are demonized by certain political idealogues. I bet George Soros is behind it all.

Originally posted by Crapspackle
Poor guy. It is a shame the way some people are demonized by certain political idealogues. I bet George Soros is behind it all.

I'm pretty sure Koch's are not poor, but morally and ethically poor yes, they are destitute, and yeah Soros is most likely behind it, not completely of course but certainly more of an influence than Koch. Let's remember that Koch never even called the Wisconsin governor, that was a phone prank, so there's really no evidence that he actually had a part in it.

Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by Crapspackle
Poor guy. It is a shame the way some people are demonized by certain political idealogues. I bet George Soros is behind it all.

I'm pretty sure Koch's are not poor, but morally and ethically poor yes, they are destitute, and yeah Soros is most likely behind it, not completely of course but certainly more of an influence than Koch.

Tell me something. Honestly. What do you think "it" is that Soros is behind? I never said. I was simply pointing to the fact that the right love to blame him for everything and anything just like you are claiming the left does the poor Kochs and here you proved it by agreeing Soros is probably behind something you have no idea what.

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Wait... so you think that the fact that the Koch brothers pretty much buying out Wi and having a huge part in crushing anything that resembles peoples rights is a Liberal Conspiracy?

Listen.... I am just a guy who reads a lot and pays attention to politics quite a bit.... this Koch brother thing is NOT a conspiracy.

I don't care if they were democratic, republican, whatever... it doesn't matter.

What they are trying to do is blur the lines between corporate and government.

It's not a fricken conspiracy and I suggest you do some fact checking on your own.

The only conspiracy I see is your assessment of the truth. You talk about Soros and all these grey area issues, when the facts are in front of our face. Just follow the money.

And by "on your own" look at the money, the rights being taken away from people, the bills that are getting passed in Wi.

I clicked on the thread ready to make the comment, "it is no different than conservatives blaming Soros", and Lo Nd behold, that's just what the op did!

So the long and the short of it is that you would prefer that these two guys have the power to decide how you will be governed and who you will be governed by, not your choice not your voice you basically get no vote.

If that is your vision of a democracy then great that is where we are heading -- you have given it over to the powerful and corporate interests with just a wimper -- why do the right wing and the tea baggers insist on still living under daddies thumb -- you guys got issues.

Damn I am glad I'm old all the good has been wrung out of this country.

Originally posted by mudbeed
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Wait... so you think that the fact that the Koch brothers pretty much buying out Wi and having a huge part in crushing anything that resembles peoples rights is a Liberal Conspiracy?

Listen.... I am just a guy who reads a lot and pays attention to politics quite a bit.... this Koch brother thing is NOT a conspiracy.

I don't care if they were democratic, republican, whatever... it doesn't matter.

What they are trying to do is blur the lines between corporate and government.

It's not a fricken conspiracy and I suggest you do some fact checking on your own.

The only conspiracy I see is your assessment of the truth. You talk about Soros and all these grey area issues, when the facts are in front of our face. Just follow the money.

And by "on your own" look at the money, the rights being taken away from people, the bills that are getting passed in Wi.

edit on 7/28/2011 by mudbeed because: (no reason given)

Who cares about bills being passed in Wisconsin when the federal reserve has a monopoly over the entire united states.

Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by mudbeed
reply to post by filosophia

 

Wait... so you think that the fact that the Koch brothers pretty much buying out Wi and having a huge part in crushing anything that resembles peoples rights is a Liberal Conspiracy?

Listen.... I am just a guy who reads a lot and pays attention to politics quite a bit.... this Koch brother thing is NOT a conspiracy.

I don't care if they were democratic, republican, whatever... it doesn't matter.

What they are trying to do is blur the lines between corporate and government.

It's not a fricken conspiracy and I suggest you do some fact checking on your own.

The only conspiracy I see is your assessment of the truth. You talk about Soros and all these grey area issues, when the facts are in front of our face. Just follow the money.

And by "on your own" look at the money, the rights being taken away from people, the bills that are getting passed in Wi.

edit on 7/28/2011 by mudbeed because: (no reason given)

Who cares about bills being passed in Wisconsin when the federal reserve has a monopoly over the entire united states.

I was speaking directly to your OP. You are doing something that your kind loves to do which is to change the topics when you are confronted with facts.

Yes you are right about the federal reserve. That is a Gov issue and a bank issue. Not a Soros issue.

You know who created the fed-reserve right? Look it up. People just like the Koch Brothers along with a heavily conservative base.

Quit selling people your distorted view of the facts and read up on what is really going on.

Koch bros, are huge supporters of the Tea party and they heavily fund Bachmann. They are also known to fund writers to write hit pieces against RP, in my opinion the Koch bros are evil.

If the Koch bros spent half the time they did union busting, and put their time towards good causes --``real`` health care reform or ending our costly adventures in the M.E, etc I would consider them descent people.

Like you, I am also mad at the Koch brothers, but not because they are trying to bankrupt social security, that actually makes me happy,

They don't want to ``bankrupt`` SS, they just want it privatized. They believe it to be the largest pot of money in the world, it'll be a gold mine for them.

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Uh oh, another Ron Paul guy...

Originally posted by filosophia
Like you, I am also mad at the Koch brothers, but not because they are trying to bankrupt social security, that actually makes me happy, but because they are a fall guy to take all the blame for the economic collapse, which should be blamed on people like Soros, however the liberals say how the Koch brothers have more funding than Soros, impossible considering Soros is a Rothschild agent. So what's going on here, someone trying to make the Koch brothers seem like wealthy texan oil capitalists who are going to take away their precious social security ponzi scheme? Sounds like a Koch Konspiracy to me.

Let's not forget that the liberals are into dirty jokes, especially jokes involving Weiners. Let's all take a moment to remember just how long the Weiner joke lasted, just how long they could keep screwing around with his name, how they never seemed to tire to insert his hilarious name at any opportunity, all the while the Bilderberg meeting gets no attention whatsoever while the circus media penis show is going on. Smoke screen. Just like the Koch brothers whose names also suspiciously sound like "kock"

However, the real proof though is the agenda behind those who preach of a Koch Konspiracy. It's Communism! The working class must rise above the capitalist class while the true power (Soros) plays the strings from behind. Sure, tax the rich, just not the super rich. Foolish Marxists. We can see through your plan.

7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces - Socialists, Anarchists, Communists - to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our SOCIAL MASONRY. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite - in the diminution, the KILLING OUT OF THE GOYIM. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.

-Protocols of Zion

Wow! The Protocols of Zion??? Really? Okay, time to put this one to bed. They aren't real! Evil Jew commies aren't gonna take over the world.

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you said "Like you, I am also mad at the Koch brothers, but not because they are trying to bankrupt social security, that actually makes me happy"

yeah becasue everyone PAYS INTO social security from their paychecks and you feel the republicans are due that money for themselves. Please dont conjure up images of shiftless minorities sucking off your taxes with foodstamps because thats a deeply erroneous picture of social security.

YOU PAY every week for soc sec. Its there for YOU when you get old. They want to ditch it, tho they keep the money. Then YOU get NOTHING, not now, not when youre old. instead, the system gets put in the hands of a private corp who can grow fat and rich off your money. people like you make me really angry. You can take your constant baby catterwalling about george soros and liberals and .... the website says I have to be nice. Ok, fine, i won't finish that sentence. Instead I will say, really politely, that your absurd point of view is either a massive lack of udnerstanding or complicity in the movement to udnermine the population. Either way, its wrong and dangerous and anyone with an ounce of sense will see this for what it is.

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So the purpose of your thread is not not address the hold the Koch Bros. have on our elected representatives but to deflect attention away from them and onto the hold that Soros has on our elected representatives?

It seems to me like you need to figure out your priorities. Who cares which side either one of them funds. They both have way too much power over our representatives in the form of cash and gifts that the typical American citizen could never meet.

Essentially, your thread says, "who cares if the Koch brothers are trying to sway representatives to their side to pass legislation that hurts the little guy so they can reap more profits? What we need to be paying attention to is how this guy Soros tries to sway representatives to his side to pass legislation that hurts the little guy so he can reap more profits."

Wow...

DISCLAIMER: I honestly don't know squat about Soros. Just going off the assertions of the OP.

Originally posted by sgreco
and you feel the republicans are due that money for themselves.

Where exactly did I ever even in the slightest bit suggest that I want the republicans to have the social security money for themselves? That would be impossible since I do not believe there is any money in there to begin with! The country is broke and you are assuming there is a load of money just sitting in a vault somewhere

Originally posted by nunya13
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So the purpose of your thread is not not address the hold the Koch Bros. have on our elected representatives but to deflect attention away from them and onto the hold that Soros has on our elected representatives?

Yes. And you're right, they are the same, but Soros has a much greater hold than Koch. Soros has been a known criminal for a lot longer than Koch who took the scene mostly from the Wisconsin issue. Maybe a group of people have followed Koch longer than that, but if anything they are part of the same consortium so to be against one is to be against the other. I'm just trying to educate people that Koch is not the most evil man in the world. I just get that feeling from talking to some people.