Originally posted by Doublemint
reply to post by dr_strangecraft
one thing when I think shtf happend it is random not a slow process, thats just you alowing it to happen.
1. "Random" is not the opposite of slow. "fast" is the opposite of slow. Random means something happening by chance, without any discernible
cause. I am preparing for every sort of scenario I can, whether fast or slow, random or human-caused.
2. My definition of "SHTF" is that it is beyond my control, so it's not a question of me "alowing" it to happen.
I also thought the whole point of things like this was to be prepared so all of question should be able to be answerd by any of use.
Yes, I agree that questions should be answered by any of..."us." And when there are potential problems or deeper questions, I think any of us ought
to be allowed to point them out. I was just pointing out that an industrial chicken farm is a complex system, and vulnerable to the same types of
supply problems that puts our entire society at risk.
For the most part who ever your suplier is they are going to keep you growing chickens
What does that mean? Your "supplier" will be able to supply you with both chickens and food, even when the rail networks are incapacitated? Or
your supplier will begin supplying you with electricity, once the power grid fails?
In most cases, your supplier will be a corporation, which is a legal fiction that may cease to exist without the legal and economic systems to keep it
propped up. If your supplier cannot meet payroll, or if the employees have no faith in their own safety, then your supplier will cease to function
My point with all of this is to say simply that you are assuming that a supplier will magically be there to meet all your chicken-producing needs.
And yet "survivalism" is about asking "what if," and not taking things for granted when it comes to relying on the kindness of strangers.
maybe it does happen when you dont have chickens then oh well thats why you have other plans. All of these discusion are imaginary and hypothetical so
nothing is set in stone.
So, what,.... your suggestion may not work, so have something else
as a back-up? That means that your idea of locating a chicken farm may not
be much of a back up plan, if it doesn't meet any of your needs.
Why wouldn't people plaining on surriving know some things about raising chickens this is an imaginary situation we are talking about and since I
don't know anything about you I made up an imaginary person that is able to raise chickens. Or maybe I just read your posted wrong but you seemed
1. Well, I happen to know quite a bit about raising chickens (having raised them before, for pay). I actually have a source for layers within
traveling distance even in a survival situation, a friend who raises them now ( and provides us with eggs in barter)
2. I would recommend you or other interested ATSers in the US look for much more local sources of chickens than a chicken farm:
google the nearest feed store. They probably sell chickens in the Spring, if not year round.
look for a bulletin-board for individuals or clubs (like 4H) involved in raising chickens. The people who are willing to share
knowledge and chicks now would probably still share their skills in a crisis.
look on Craigslist and read under the "farm and garden." There may be a large number of posts for chickens, but read through them and
look for common features. Things like, what types are for sale, what kind of equipment are chicken keepers looking for, and where do most of them
3. I'm not freaked out at all. Not by a long-shot. Just pointing out what I see as problems with the suggestion you offered.