NBC apologizes for cutting "under God" from Pledge of Allegiance before U.S. Open

How can atheists be so ignorant? First they claim that Jesus never existed now they say that America was not made by religious principles

Then how do you atheists explain:

"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to Him is in doing good to His other Children. That the soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound Religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever Sect I meet with them. As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, is the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see."

-- Ben Franklin (though he did not follow a religion he DID believe in God)

"It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it [the Constitution] a finger of that Almighty hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the revolution."

- James Madison

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

- Patrick Henry

"We, therefore, the Congress of the United States of America, do solemnly declare and proclaim that... We appeal to the God who searcheth the hearts of men for the rectitude of our intentions; and in His holy presence declare that, as we are not moved by any light or hasty suggestions of anger or revenge, so through every possible change of fortune we will adhere to this our determination."

- Manifesto of the Continental Congress, October 30, 1778 (Sam Adams)

For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.

- Alexander Hamilton (After 1787 Constitutional Convention)

reply to post by SeekerLou
I guess you are incapable. You act like I haven't been subjected to your sales pitch all my life.
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I have no problem with a magician called Jesus having existed. I don't care if the Masons, slave owners, and superstitious who invaded this land did espouse a creator. I'm not buying that product.

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US OPEN golf lets keep to the real issue here as a Northern Ireland citizen I am as proud as punch as it was my fellow country man Rory McIlroy that WIN THE GAME SET AND MATCH he's home with the silver. God blessed our man and may God bless America enjoy life people and stop straining at a gnat and swallowing the proverbical camel.

Originally posted by TylerDurden2U
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by removing under god, we are no longer one nation.

I am just wondering, were we one nation before the words, "under God" were added? If so, then adding the words really changed nothing. I personally don't believe that we were ever really, "one nation", nor do I foresee us ever becoming one.

It looks to me like America is on the decline, whether this is temporary or the beginning of the end for this country, we can count on the government to start beating the drums of patriotism & nationalism like never before.
Heaven help those that resist the indoctrination.

Originally posted by gentledissident
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I guess you are incapable. You act like I haven't been subjected to your sales pitch all my life.
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15e.) Recruitment/Solicitation: i) You will not use your membership in the Websites for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not Post, use the chat feature, use videos, or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.

Sorry...but you seem to be blinded to my purpose...I'm not recruiting anyone or soliciting for any purpose. The choice is YOURS. You can have it. YOUR decision.

Pointing out the way is not recruiting.

I myself, love knowledge and truth. and appreciate it when others point me in the right direction... twd truth and knowledge.
That's just me though! If I don't listen when others are right,,,, I end up regretting it. As I'm sure so many will be having their regrets....
Thanks Have a nice day.

Originally posted by vlady95
How can atheists be so ignorant? First they claim that Jesus never existed now they say that America was not made by religious principles

How can you be so ignorant. Atheism is simply lack of belief in a Deity. It has nothing to do with whether a man named Jesus existed or didn't.

If you want to provide real factual proof that Jesus existed - - feel free.

This is by full intention a Secular government. The principles of man do not require a god to be honorable.

The Pledge was written by a Socialist - - who would have been horrified to have God inserted in his writings. Especially since it was inserted for political reasons - - and had nothing to do with religion.

It's not really surprising that this thread has devolved into an argument over whether "under God" should or should not be in the pledge, but unfortunately it shows that everyone is completely missing the most important part of this story and that is that the media is getting more and more blatant about censorship. That the kids sang "under God" in the pledge in this case is a known fact. That NBC knowingly removed the portion of the clip that showed them singing it is also a known fact. This is "censorship", plain and simple. Anyway that denies that should have a look at the definition. Who cares whether "under God" was in the original pledge or not? That's beside the point. The point is that it WAS in the version these kids sang, and it WAS censored out by NBC. I'm sure NBC knew there would be a backlash, but this is just part of the conditioning process, they are testing the waters to see how far they can push censorship.

Originally posted by sith9157
Who cares anyway...I believe what I want to believe in, and you believe what you want to believe in..period

You will care one day when you are a stranger in your own land, whether you are a atheist or a deist, we better find some common ground,

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan

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It seems it's frankly unconstitutional to be offended by the secular nature of the state.

NBC shouldn't have to apologise; believers are welcome to their God; in their own time.

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I see it as recruitment. You are inviting me to let my subconscious mind talk to me unfiltered all the time. I love my subconscious, but he is a little primitive, childlike, and fanciful in his communication. This is a fantastic experience, but I cannot live like that all the time. I would be easily manipulated and unable to stay in control in the current economic environment. Granted, I'd like to spend more time directly linked to my subconscious, but it's just not practical. It is practical when I'm recruiting people to my point of view,. My thoughts and interaction become free flowing. My goal, as a complete person, Is to take society to a point where we all look out for each other and can be in direct communication with our subconscious most of the time.

Of course there's a lot of money to be made from promoting communication of the subconscious. You can easily find religious and new age products.

Originally posted by SavedOne
Who cares whether "under God" was in the original pledge or not?

I care.

Children should not be lied to and indoctrinated into religion by politics of this country.

Which should NEVER had put "Under God" in the pledge.

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im not talking a bout a made up history lesson, im talking about my lifetime and the usa i grew up in. it is changing so rapidly that no one is happy with our nation. its bankrupt, corrupt, aithiest, uneducated, unemployed and certainly not united! we are 9 meals from anarchy. let something stop the wheels for a second and we will be like mexico, or the middle east- in chaos. the wrath of God is not what you want in your face. even if you dont believe in him, doesnt mean he isnt watching.

Originally posted by Signals


So, this is where politically correct has got us.

The Government controlled MSM has decided God is to "edgy" I guess. We wouldn't want to offend any other groups of people, would we?

I for one am sick and tired of trying to please everybody. This country was founded on Christian principles, like it or not.

I want my God back in the Pledge of Allegiance, a pledge to a once great country, that hopefully one day will be great again.

IF that offends anybody, they can kiss my American butt.

www.washingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Well hey, look on the bright side.

At least we have a "gutsy" President in office!

the pledge was created during reconstruction in order to put salt in the wounds of loyal americans who stood up to defend and protect the constitution, the confederates. 150 years ago, some gave all, all gave some

Originally posted by gentledissident
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I see it as recruitment. You are inviting me to let my subconscious mind talk to me unfiltered all the time.

The way I see it is: His commandment should guide my every action acccording to His Word. Doing good unto others etc.

My goal, as a complete person, Is to take society to a point where we all look out for each other and can be in direct communication with our subconscious most of the time.

Aha...In this we are alike!! This is what I am trying to do... look out after others and love as HE has loved! Letting Him guide my whole being.....

If only the whole world would see the Light... we'd have "Under God" back like it should be and have a better LOVING world... but imo that won't happen just yet..

Good for NBC. Those words were only added during the McCarthy years when people were looking for "Godless commies" under every roof and people felt compelled and were desperate to prove their Americaness out of fear of retribution by a hateful and sinister fear-mongering sect of the American public.

In other words, ADING those words were the apitomy of political correctness and were spawned directly from fascist fears.

As usual, the Right is uninformed and manages to flip the truth around until the real truth is thought a lie and their lies become truth.

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okay I dont like where this thread is going bashing anyone that isnt Christian! Im not a Christan but I still believe that under god should still be included in the pledge to me the god can stand for what ever you want it to.

Originally posted by Torgo
I wonder what Jesus would say about what is essentially a government sanctioned public prayer...

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6:5-6

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It is all false piety coming from the same low information relics that chest beat with all their false patriotism. These poorly informed groups genuinely believe that saying things is enough, it never occurs to them to live as they preach and it shows in their hate, ready judgment of others and their rampant intolerance. The most Christian people I ever meet are invariably athiests or agnostics; these groups have the intelligence and intellecutal curiosity to question and not simply regurgitate things taught them since they were babies. Athiests and agnostics are deliberate thinkers and tend not to go off hal-cocked like the faux Christians. Athiests and agnostics have MUCH HIGHER levels of love and empathy for their fellow man, whereas the modern American Christian spits on the homeless person he steps over, scowls at the poor mother, screams AMEN! every time they hear another Muslim has been killed overseas.

I've alwasy been of the opinion that a country should earn respect from its citizens. It's never given blindly. That's what htey ask when they ask you to pledge allegiance. You know we used to make a sign when we pledged and it was a lot like the kids did in germany. But anyway, if you do say the pledge I hope you really mean it. A guy shouldn't have to say the pledge to prove he has deep respect and love of his country. It's through his actions and commitment.

Remember it's hard to gain respect and trust, but easy to lose them.

So much easier just to encourage blind faith, you see? The pledge is just one nail in the coffin.