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Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by Phenomium
from what I've seen, the men are really dropping the ball also....
let's just sterialize everyone, there is such a thing as test tube babies now days!!!
since, well, it appears that americans in general can no longer be accountable for their decisions when it comes to their sexual relations!!!
with genetics we can make them better, faster, smarter, healthier, superhuman!!
we can pick the best moms to raise them through infancy, then the gov't schools can take over....
super kids, learning only what the gov't deems appropriate for the little tykes!!!
and then at adulthood, well, they will be finely trained workers (or soldiers)!!!
don't like my idea??? well then grow up people!!!! freedom comes with an abundance of responsibility!! and once we abandon that responsibility, well, the freedoms seem to fade out of existence!
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Exactly. And when you read the article, it is shown that not only is aid to the poor being cut, but all corners of the government are being cut.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
This is not a matter of wanting people to "pop out kids"! It is a matter that when you have sex and get preggie, it's time to take responsibility and not just kill your unborn because it's a bit inconvenient.
You sound a bit like the Prez though, you don't want people to be "punished with babies". But somehow the pro-Choice think that tax payers must pay the financial price for other people's mistakes in paying for both their abortions and the care of their "mistakes" from cradle to grave.
This is what we call the Nanny State, and Mussolini called it "Totalitarianism".
Originally posted by Phenomium
Afterall, when you get married or go on a date,.....is a man not doing the same? Trading money for sex? Just in a legally accepted manner, that's the only difference.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Chett
I am staying out of the abortion debate this time, it always just goes round and round.
Pro-choice people rant a lot about 'rape victims' - just once I would like to see some stats on that to go with it.
Stats? You need states to prove the existing of rape victims who go for abortions? Really? This isn't a numbers game, this is about the rights of every individual. If you feel confortable with telling a rape victim, a child, that she'll be charged by the government over a choie, I really question your mind set.
Now, here's where I always have to slap my head and laugh. Having an abortion is "taking responsibility." What would strike me as being irresponsible is having a child that you cannot provide care for.
Originally posted by Phenomium
You just made my point.
Selfishness. It's all about you right? The child has no choice.
Everyone desearves the same chance regardless of how YOU personally feel about a situation.
when it comes to the mother playing GOD and deciding whether the child should live or die.