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Is this how they point(aim) HAARP? Tell me what you think.

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posted on May, 18 2014 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: Happy1
Do what underground?
Ionospheric research?
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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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IN A NUTSHELL: Frequency is sound, which is energy in the form of waves. These waves travel across distance. If you could see these waves they would appear as bubbles expanding from the source (VIBRATION OF AIR MOLECULES). So imagine where one should point a giant F**king loudspeaker.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 09:58 PM
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IN A NUTSHELL: Frequency is sound,

In a nutshell: no.
Frequency is a property. A ratio of occurance over time.

A pogo stick has a frequency. A bicycle wheel has a frequency. A woman has a frequency. Pooping has a frequency.

Frequency is not sound.

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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: Phage

My apologies, you are correct sir. In reference to the HAARP, electric frequency creates sound whether we can hear it or not.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: BangoDukeINF
Again. No.

It is not "electric frequency" it is electromagnetic radiation and it does not create sound.

That is, of course, unless you have an antenna, rectifier, and some sort of earphone or speaker system. You can then convert the signal to sound.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yes a sound the human ear can hear. like using a crystal to pick up radio frequencies, either way you look at it the HARRP is transmitting sound.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: BangoDukeINF

No. It isn't. It's transmitting electromagnetic radiation.
Electromagnetic radiation is not sound.

Sound is a longitudinal wave in a material medium.
Electromagnetic radiation is a self propagating transverse wave consisting of a magnetic field and an electric field oscillating at 90º to each other.

While they can share the same frequency (along with a bicycle wheel), they have nothing common.
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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: liejunkie01

So cool to learn about aiming HAARP. Repositioning 15 degrees in 15 microseconds. Now that is cool and sounds like power steering to me.

What is (and imminently "was") HAARP?


One of the advantages of this powerful instrument is that those 180 antennas, which act together as one giant antenna or satellite dish, can be electronically (rather than manually) steered. This gets physicists like Fallen excited. He tells me: “So the beam can be focused in different directions very very quickly! And the beam can also be shaped differently. There’s all sorts of very creative experiment modes that stress the transmitter and cause pieces to burst into flames and arch and do other expensive damage to the machine.” Which was a concern for poor Fallen recently, as rookie operator in training.


So it seems like the smart cookies that designed HAARP built in a fail-safe for aiming the beam (sorry, not beam: diffusion.) If you aim incorrectly it just arcs and burns up. Very handy. (Seems like there could have been a little software program that would pop up and say: no - no.)

(I'm not sure where you're going with the ozone curvature...)



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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The main instrument at HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI). This is a high power, high-frequency phased array radio transmitter with a set of 180 antennas, disposed in an array of 12x15 units that occupy a rectangle of about 33 acres (13 hectares). The IRI is used to temporarily energize a small portion of the ionosphere. The study of these disturbed volumes yields important information for understanding natural ionospheric processes.

- Wikipedia



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: BangoDukeINF
a reply to: Phage

This is a high power, high-frequency phased array RADIO TRANSMITTER with a set of 180 antennas

- Wikipedia


Ya know, like when they used to use crystal rods in radios because they resonate at a frequency that the human ear cannot hear.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01
I often wonder how much more we would know about the man if the politics of the day were different.

They didn't kill him. He lived to be a ripe old age, and frequently yammered on about this remote controlled/powered machine or death ray or whatever. The guy was a constant promoter and loved to see his name in the papers.

Chances are pretty good that we knew as much about the man as their was to know.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: BangoDukeINF
Ya know, like when they used to use crystal rods in radios because they resonate at a frequency that the human ear cannot hear.


No, the crystal in a radio was used as a half wave rectifier....



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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The main instrument at HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI).
Yes, yes it is.


Ya know, like when they used to use crystal rods in radios because they resonate at a frequency that the human ear cannot hear.
No. Crystals act as a rectifier in a crystal radio receiver (not transmitters). They do not "resonate", they permit electricity to flow in only one direction. They convert the modulated alternating electric field of electromagnetic radiation into an amplitude modulated direct current. The tranmsitter modulates its signal at audible frequencies (though they aren't audible because they are electromagnetic radiation, not sound) and the crystal rectifier extracts that modulated signal. There is no resonance involved in the process.

There is resonance involved with the tuner (which is not the crystal). The tuner is what is used to select a particular radio station. It's a filter of sorts. But again, the tuner has nothing to do with sound, it just allows the electrical field of only one of the frequencies out of all of the frequencies that the antenna receives to reach the crystal.

Radio stations don't transmit sound waves. HAARP doesn't transmit sound waves. They transmit radio waves, electromagnetic radiation.

www.crystalradio.net...
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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: luxordelphi

It is cool lux.

I made this thread back in the day when people would post, "well how do they steer it".

ATS was just over run with that crowd. No information was available, or rare to find.

Now 3 to 4 years later and the info is everywhere.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: liejunkie01
Second post in the thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The information was readily available. It was on the HAARP website.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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Tuner? really? Filter? 1 you mean diode and that is the part that slides along the crystal rod contacting the coil to resonate at the stations frequency. 2 you mean noise-gate which is built into the receiver preamp and has nothing to do with transmitting or receiving, it is signal processing. Electromagnetic radiation carries sound waves at inaudible frequencies and that is even in the link you provided:

"Interesting fact: a sound wave travels over 600 miles an hour (speed of sound), but a radio wave can travel at 186,000 miles a second! If you record a singer in a concert hall in New York and transmit it over radio waves, The radio wave could reach San Francisco before the sound wave from the singer reaches the back of the concert hall.


We have to catch it and do something with it. Let’s take your crystal radio and see if we can change it back into a sound that you can hear."

www.crystalradio.net...



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:15 PM
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the crystal rod contacting the coil to resonate at the stations frequency.
The crystal does not resonate, the tuning coil does, but how else is the electrical signal going to get from the coil to the crystal rectifier if it isn't connected to it?



2 you mean noise-gate which is built into the receiver preamp and has nothing to do with transmitting or receiving, it is signal processing.
A crystal radio has no preamp but I mean that the tuner in effect filters out all but the selected frequency, the station you want to hear. You could have a crystal radio without the tuner (with a large enough antenna) but you'd hear all of the radio stations at the same time. You would get a hiss of white noise.



Electromagnetic radiation carries sound waves at inaudible frequencies and that is even in the link you provided:
I'm glad you read the link but the quote you provide just says that electromagnetic radiation travels a lot faster than sound, it says nothing about frequencies, inaudible or otherwise. A radio signal is modulated at audible frequencies. That modulation is superimposed on the carrier, at the frequency your radio station is assigned to.


Let’s take your crystal radio and see if we can change it back into a sound that you can hear."
Right. Except that the crystal doesn't resonate and the "sound" is already at an audible frequency, the crystal extracts the modulated signal directly, it doesn't change it's frequency.

Electromagnetic radiation is not sound. One big difference, as you pointed out, is that electromagnetic radiation travels at the speed of light. Sound doesn't.
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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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so you have no idea how radio works. got it. oh its funny how you say the crystal "extracts". LOL what, does it grow f**kin arms? you sound like a used car salesman.



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